I know why so many are unlicensed or unregistered.

Before I sold our business in 2006 I needed a batch of parts from a supplier in Tampa. I used the "English" Order line. I didn't speak enough Spanish to use the English Only line! (I had to use my Ohio based salesman to place my order!

Ivan

Ivan
 
Breakaway, just curious, after 45 yrs with a CDL do you still need it? I’ve had mine for 34 yrs and recently retired. I think I’ll pay the money and keep it. Just because.
 
He’s never been to Florida?

Or California, or Arizona, or Texas?

Our last visit to my mom in Arizona a couple of years ago, we stopped in a McDonalds in Bisbee for breakfast.
We were the ONLY English-speaking gringos in the whole place - including the kids behind the counter!
That economics prof in RI is a certifiable idiot...
 
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I’ve had my CDL for over 45 years. Same address etc for 32 years….in Massachusetts. Same everything. They have access to those records.

Yet..I must return with my “sacred birth certificate”…tomorrow for another attempt at getting my license/credentials renewed.


That’s what bothers me the most. I followed their rules. There was no demand/questions for a valid Passport or certified birth certificate on their pre-qualify questionnaire. If it’s that critical it should have been requested.Period. No warning. Not fair. They could have overlooked it but instead I got a signed letter of nonconformity. Swell.

As an aside:

While in the “appointment” line at 10:45 awaiting my deli ticket I overheard an “officially attired employee” telling the 50-60 “walk/in” people waiting in “their” line, some for 30plus minutes, to come back at 2;30!!Line closed till then!

Didn’t make me feel any better. Just even more apathy for how poorly they run the place.Pathetic disorganization. Did I mention the 23 windows and only 7-8 “manned”. Can I still even say that without breaking some new guideline? I don’t think so…

I've been using the RMV at the AAA office in my City, but you probably can't use AAA because CDL.
 
I want to comment on this so badly, but I will get dinged like a pinball in the arcade machine.

All I can add is that I listened to an economic college professor today, and he said RI will be the first bilingual state.

I am with you.
I don't usually take any BS form anyone but you have to bite your tongue with the DMV
unless they mess up.

When wrong, I have had them refund my certified mail fees,
in following their advise, to get my , what ever, with all my receipts and e-mails.

Just make sure all the "T's" are crossed and "I's" dotted,
before stepping into that pool !!
 
I keep my CDL because I have had it since they came into existence; I was grandfathered. It is likely a poor use of money. The added steps were likely because it is an "Enhanced", like mine, which can be used for various access checks that a non-enhanced cannot satisfy.
 
Took my step daughter to the DMV here to take her driving test. She had a learners permit. She had an appointment and we got there about 10 minutes early. She went out with the tester about the time her appointment was for and was back in around 20 minutes and then as I chatted with the tester he took her photo and did the last of her paper work for maybe 10 minutes and away we went.

I live in a whole nother world than most people
 
I do still drive a class 2 vehicle to haul gravel to my home and sometimes scrap or multi car trailers.It’s all “not for hire” so I just qualify as an Intra-state exception. However they still refused to bend their “rules” even though they didn’t ask for it in the online registration. No certified birth certificate no shirt! Did I mention I’ve had this license nonstop for over 45 years? Idiots..

I can’t let it lapse unless I pay someone to drive my truck. Sounds pretty rediculous when you think about it as basically they are asking me to prove I am ME because??It not about bad health or vision. Just not the correct credentials!

Yet anyone with a standard passenger car drivers license can operate a 40k.lb Motor home!

Maybe I’ll register my dump truck as a camper. :)
 
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Any passport issuing office will tell you that your passport, though expired, still provides a legal document to show your identity.

Yeah, but try to convince any other governmental agency of that.
The right hand never knows what the left hand is doing.
That's an inherent problem in the nature of government bureaucracies.
They are all in their own little silos. That's how they justify their jobs.
When I applied for my Washington "enhanced" driver's license a few years ago, they wouldn't accept my passport as valid ID - because it had been expired for a few months.
Thankfully I did the research in advance and brought along a certified copy of my birth certificate AND my original Social Security Card, along with my "regular" Washington driver's license. With all that documentation I was able to get through the renewal process without a hitch.
Unfortunately I have to renew my driver's license again before my birthday in November of this year, and I haven't really looked into what kind of documentation THAT is going to require.
But given the fact that Washington is changing their driver's license NUMBERING system, I'm 100% sure it will be more of a hassle than it needs to be.
After all, we have to keep all those functionaries at the DOL employed somehow...
Reminds me of Morgan Freeman's statement to the parole board in the movie Shawshank Redemption.
 
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Ya, the fact that anyone with a regular drivers license can buy a 38' motor home, connect a 20'+ car or boat behind it and take off down the highway with it. Not only stupid, it is down right dangerous. Many of them do not have a clue as to stopping distance, how the rear end and tow will track.

It ain't your SUV or your 1/2 ton truck with a 12' utility trailer.

Years ago in my 30s I spend a couple years working on highways. Guys hated RVs. Lot of guys including me got smacked with a mirror on some nit wit/s pride and joy. I have see the rear end swing and hit stuff, lots of rear wheel roll over stuff, one going down the road with its towed vehicle's wheels turned hard and smoking, There is a chunk of I 90 near Livingston Montana, not far from Yellowstone park, that gets some serious wind. I have seen lots of chunks of destroyed RV vehicles in the ditches there.

But, here is another interesting fact. Even if you have never used a row boat or canoe, if you have the cash, you can buy any sized yacht you want. Hop aboard with 20 of your friends, fire up the mains and put it in gear and head out. 100% legal as long as you are not charging anyone.

I ran a 58 foot commercial fishing boat from Washington state, though Canada, to Alaska with a crew of 4 without any license. Had to have a seine permit to seine once in AK. But, no tonnage license of any kind. You call when you hit Canada and give them the vessels registration number and your radio permit number and thats it. Been boarded by the coasties, they looked at survival gear, life raft, vessels registration papers and thats it.

I have enough sea time that I qualify for a master's license but, have never studied or sat for the test
 
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When I need anything DMV related I drive about 40 minutes to a little town in a neighboring Parish . Usually there is no more than two people ahead of me in line if that many . It's quicker to make the drive and get your business handled that way .
Also there is Notary office not too far from me that is a Public Tag Agent . You can do anything DMV related there except actually get your Driver's License .
 
When I applied for my Washington "enhanced" driver's license a few years ago, they wouldn't accept my passport as valid ID - because it had been expired for a few months.

Thankfully I did the research in advance and brought along a certified copy of my birth certificate AND my original Social Security Card, along with my "regular" Washington driver's license. With all that documentation I was able to get through the renewal process without a hitch.
Unfortunately I have to renew my driver's license again before my birthday in November of this year, and I haven't really looked into what kind of documentation THAT is going to require.

I have a enhanced CDL and had to jump through the birth certificate and Social Security Card hoop the first time. I couldn’t find my original Social Security Card so had to get another one. (Recently I was going through some papers and found the first S.S. Card).

When I had to renew my CDL I didn’t have to have the birth certificate and Social Security Card documents.

Sounds like O.P.’s state requirements are different from Kansas.
 
No one goes unscathed at the DMV


Not always. It was like being in the Twilight Zone.


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Here is a photo of the denial letter.

It wasnt good enough for the clerk to say NO it had to be O-fficial!

Proof of Lawful Presence document? A Credential Application?

I had to ask what all that gibberish meant. Bring in a certified birth certificate. Ok..thanks.

I did that today and walked out with a slip of paper that said I would get my license in the mail. Mabye...
 

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