If No Ammo, Why do I get 5 Emails a Day of Ammo on Sale ?

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I get an email every day from LAX, SG AMMO and multiple other ammo retailers with offers. Every single one of them has most ammo available and when I say that I mean many cases as I only look and purchase by the thousand.

Ammo is available it is just expensive.

Are you guys inundated with marketing of ammo as well ?
 
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One of our stores has ammo with a limit of 2 boxes per caliber per day. They have 22lr for $3.95 for box of 50; 9mm for $19.95 for box of 50; and 38 Special for $34.95 for box of 50; 44 mag and 45 acp for $45.00 for box of 50. These are the lowest prices around here in Upstate NY and I have not seen 38 Special in years. The prices of shotgun ammo is wild with Skeet and Trap loads going for $12.95 for a box of 25AA/STSRemington.
 
One clarification, I am not complaining about the emails, I am just perplexed at what is driving the pricing. I posted in another thread about the wholesale costs. I wish we could get reliable info on what the wholesale prices are doing. I am not sure what a standard markup is on ammo but having that info would provide better insight into the markets.
 
IMO, what's keeping the prices high right now is the fact that consumers are willing to pay for ammo at these prices. There’s millions of new gun owners around the country who became gun owners during the COVID ammo shortage and these are some of the lowest prices and best selection they've ever seen.

Once retailers are stocked fully and start to slow down their ordering, we'll see suppliers begin to drop prices as long as there isn't another new reason to have more shortages.

Higher commodity prices and war in eastern Europe certainly don't help.
 
I get the emails to, but never buy from them. I look for and find ammo on GB for better prices then the emails I get from the ammo retailers.
 
Supply and demand. Demand is very high and supply is relatively low. Prices have to rise and this drives down demand and that in turn drives down demand while increasing prices.

Supply and demand always responds to changes across the economy, and eventually ends in equilibrium. Take minimum wage. Due to 2016-2019 massive economic growth, equilibrium of the economy was higher than minimum of wage. Take 2020-2022 mass inflation, which is still occurring. When the inflation ends, the economy will eventually reach equilibrium and minimum wage will be even further outpaced. However, until the economy can reach equilibrium, prices for everything will bounce up and down as the supply and demand bounces up and down as I explained in the first paragraph.

The economy is in upheaval AND you have the economic growth, then crash, then mass inflation playing with prices the entire time. The economy is a roller coaster until things stop rapidly changing.

ALWAYS look for good deals and NEVER give in to economic crashes. Crashes lead to good deals and that is evident by 9mm or 5.56 being good deals buying in bulk, depleting supply.

Sales are always about volume, not charging crazy prices. If you rip us off, you stop getting our business. If you have really good prices, you get all of the sales. When you raise prices to fight scarcity, you get less sales. When you then get more and more inventory, you have to lower prices. Once you run out, you raise prices due to scarcity. Cycle repeats. The ammo economy has not reached an equilibrium where sales at good prices are equal to new incoming stock. You WILL see prices do this for the next few years
 
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I don't think I will be buying any 9mm ammo from any dealers if the lowest
price that they have is.....................

.30 cents a round or almost $1.00 for three shots.

.40 cents comes to $2.00 for five rounds.

Hellow.....................

I not that hard up to shot a pistol, yet .
 
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I received an email from one of the bigger brass and bullet suppliers today. I didn’t need anything but took a look at 44 special, 357 and 45LC brass. Each price included shipping but wow!!! The prices were insane. 44sp is $109/100 once fired brass, 357 new brass $69/100 and 45LC $75/100. Another big supplier of powder and primers had Russian SPP for $100/1000 this week but they sold out.
 
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I too get 3-4 emails per week on ammo deals…prices are high and shipping is crazy. I’ve got a good stock of 22lr, 38 spl, 44 spl, 12 & 16 gauge on hand. Been looking for 45lc which is pretty much nonexistent unless you want to pay $65.00 for fifty rounds plus shipping. I did score two boxes of 22 mag today at $13.00 per fifty so I’m ok in that caliber too! Guess we just have to be patient…easier said than done.
 
The local Cabelas was pretty well stocked. The Herters stuff (head-stamped "WIN") was $18 for 9mm and $27 for .45ACP. WIN 9mm was $20. Everything else kind of pricey. Remington .38 Spl $35.

Anything else over .40 caliber was more than $1.00 a round and they had very little. Lots of .40 S&W but I don't remember the price. The Herters .45 ACP was really a deal. The other .45 ACP was way, way higher. Even the same head-stamp "WIN" in the white box was over $40.

I reload so I don't buy much, but I got a couple of boxes of that Herters .45 ACP. It used to be .38 Special wasn't much of a problem but it sure seems to be now.
 
Hodgdon sent me an E-mail saying they would sell me reloading powder directly to me , just set up account , place order and it would arrive at my door ... Guess which powders were out of stock ... All Of Them !!!

I didn't major in business but you can't sell things you don't have .
Gary
 
I’ve abandoned online ammo purchases unless it’s free shipping.

while a lot of focus is on rising commodity prices I believe it’s shipping costs that will make ammo expensive for a long time.

Now when I find ammo locally I’m willing to pay a bit more for it because the whole bird in hand thing.
 
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you are going to pay...one way or another

I just sold some factory ammo (357 Mag/44Mag/44 Spl & 22WMR) in the classifieds here on the Forum. The "rules" are all different today, at least here in heavily blue Virginia. I have accounts with both Fed-Ex and UPS, but their prices are way up too. The 357/44 Magnum & 44 spl was bought by a Forum Member 150 miles from me in another state. We agreed to meet halfway so we both have 150 miles round trip of gas involved (for me about $25 if I take the wifes car instead of my pickup).

The 800 rounds of 22 WMR was bought by another Forum member located in Michigan. Fed-Ex quoted $31.83, UPS quoted $ 33.85 for the box weighing 11#. I last sold some ammo a couple years ago (just before Covid hit) and the FedEx/UPS prices were half or less than yesterday's quotes

On the other hand......when trying to set a fair price I checked most all of the "big box stores" on-line such as optics planet, ammo sports, target sports, sportsman warehouse, etc.) and found not only really high prices per round, but ALSO, every caliber I had for sale was marked " backordered...no eta", or simply "out-of-stock".

So...yea...around here you can find all the 9mm or .223 rifle that you want...all at really high prices...but no other calibers so like I said...if you want it, or need some...you will pay more, and a decent chunk of that seems to be shipping. I too get the bunch of e-mails every day, but the so-called "free shipping" is certainly factored into the on line price when you look at true round count cost.
 
I recieved a question from a fellow member on what I thought about the following deal ... model 57 S&W in very good condition , no box , no papers but with 500 rounds of Winchester 215 gr. JHP ammunition $1400.00 ... In todays market was this a good deal ?

At first I thought the price was way out of line ...looked around at the price of 41 Magnum factory ammo , when you can find it ... about $50.00 / box ... $500 worth of ammo (or more) so the model 57 is costing ...
...$900 ! After thinking about what everything is costing and the prices just keep going up ... I told the guy if he wanted to join the 41 magnum club ...do the deal and get a set of reloading dies and a bullet mould .
It actually now looks like a pretty good deal .

We living in some Exceptionally Crazy Times !
Gary
 
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