Sir, you post was #3. How could you know what "will be" posted in #5...???
Is there popcorn?
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If you Dry Fire - try using snap caps
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Sir, you post was #3. How could you know what "will be" posted in #5...???
Is there popcorn?
He linked to the Smith & Wesson owner's manual. Question 5 in the link was regarding dry firing a Smith & Wesson handgun . . .
Rastoff
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I own and use SnapCaps in several firearms. I won't intentionally dry fire a hammer fired firearm ever. Even with striker fired designs, I don't excessively dry fire. For disassembly and function testing, no issue.
Some people sit and dry-fire their pistol hundreds of times over several hours to "break it in". I've never practiced this. I'd much rather take it to the range and actually fire it with live rounds to "break it in". Still, plenty will say there weapons never suffer from dry firing. More power to you.
Some people sit and dry-fire their pistol hundreds of times over several hours to "break it in". I've never practiced this. I'd much rather take it to the range and actually fire it with live rounds to "break it in". Still, plenty will say there weapons never suffer from dry firing. More power to you.
Rastoff
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Dry practice is the key to quality shooting. I wouldn't do dry practice just to break in a gun, but I do a lot of dry practice to work on trigger control.
Without exaggeration I have well over 100,000 dry presses on my carry gun alone. I've got plenty on other guns as well. With guns I use regularly, I do at least 10:1 dry presses to live fire. With the guns I use the most it's closer to 30:1.
Without exaggeration I have well over 100,000 dry presses on my carry gun alone. I've got plenty on other guns as well. With guns I use regularly, I do at least 10:1 dry presses to live fire. With the guns I use the most it's closer to 30:1.
4506517
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I used the A-Zoom in an AK forever. I never thought about how the aluminum wore off.
Funny, I still haven't had a single problem with that AK.
Funny, I still haven't had a single problem with that AK.
Walt Sherrill
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akdude said:
The original CZ-75 could be dry-fired. The early CZ-75B, with a single firing pin retention roll pin COULD break that pin (not the firing pin) -- but many folks dry-fired without problems. (I never had a problem with a 75B, but I broke a roll pin quickly with a new CZ-40B, which had the same mechanism. A local hardware store had a compatible roll pen... $.75.)
Later CZ-75Bs and subsequent models based on the same design were upgraded to use a doubled roll pin (a pin within a pin), and its no longer a problem. (I thought I read that CZ went to a solid pin, but haven't seen that claim confirmed.)
The CZ-52 broke firing pins easily, but after-market providers frequently offered upgraded firing pins that were not easily broken.
Many of the .22s that have problems don't always break firing pins, but crater the edge of the chamber (where the .22 rim sets); when cratered, the firing pin can't hit with the rim with full force.
Rastoff
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An AK? According to the acolytes, you can't break an AK no matter what you do.
I mean, they can be made from a shovel: DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!
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An AK? According to the acolytes, you can't break an AK no matter what you do.
I mean, they can be made from a shovel: DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning!!
A Snap Cap in AK's is only needed if its USA made, mainly the Century made "Junkers"!
Arik
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Snap caps, aluminum and AK are three words I never thought I'd hear together
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I have never used snap caps. Ever. Almost 50 years of shooting. My dry practice isn't what it used to be, but at one time it was on par with Rastoff. No broken firing pins. Ever. This not only applies to S&W, but to Colt, Beretta, Browning, Ruger, SIG, Walther, and whatever else I have used over these many years.
Remember that the S&W paper instruction sheets (the folding ones that were included in the two-piece cardboard boxes back in the 60s and 70s) actually RECOMMENDED dry firing.
Remember that the S&W paper instruction sheets (the folding ones that were included in the two-piece cardboard boxes back in the 60s and 70s) actually RECOMMENDED dry firing.
I've got a new shield with maybe 300 rounds through at most. The tip broke off the striker. I have probably dry fired 1000 times. S&W sent me a new pin and I replaced it. Caused by dry firing? Who knows, but with my 3914 it is snap caps only so far.
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Rastoff
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If the tip of the striker broke off through dry practice, how would snap caps have prevented it?
I don't know - isn't that what they are supposed to prevent?
Rastoff
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I suspect that if the tip of the striker was ready to break off, it wouldn't matter if you used snap caps or not. Without exaggeration, I have at least 100,000 dry presses and 2,427 live rounds through my M&P 45 and I'm still on the original striker. Yours failed within 300 rounds.
Your failure was going to happen no matter what. I suspect the striker was defective from the factory.
There is no evidence that a snap cap will protect or harm a firing pin in any way. In fact, there is more evidence that a snap cap can be harmful than helpful. A plastic snap cap can have the rim fail and end up leaving the body in the bore. This would lead to a bore obstruction if not caught when it happens.
Snap caps are great for function testing and for dry practice, but I don't think they protect the firing pin at all.
Your failure was going to happen no matter what. I suspect the striker was defective from the factory.
There is no evidence that a snap cap will protect or harm a firing pin in any way. In fact, there is more evidence that a snap cap can be harmful than helpful. A plastic snap cap can have the rim fail and end up leaving the body in the bore. This would lead to a bore obstruction if not caught when it happens.
Snap caps are great for function testing and for dry practice, but I don't think they protect the firing pin at all.
