If you woke one morning and society had collapsed

Transvestite working "girls" having fist fights with "management" in the street, drug dealers, crazy people...limited or no police response. You get used to it. At the time I carried several handguns, favoring an alloy frame Commander size 1911 in .45 ACP.

Gator--I never knew you use to work the Senate and House floor!?
 
prolly sh!t a brick cause I'm not prepared. gun and ammo wise, I'm good, but food, supplies, hunting skills, not so much.
 
The best part of my bug out plan is that there is already a supply of guns and ammo there. Hunting cabins are great places to store some guns, ammo, bows and fishing rods. Quite aways off the beaten path surrounded by nearly 60 acres of food plots. Now I truely hope the **** never hits the fan but if it does my old mans dream that became reality really fits the situation. Darn nice hunting property as well.

Ohh I would just take an ar for the trip.

I thought about buying some land and putting a small cabin on it and your idea sounds appealing. I would be nervous leaving my Guns or Fishing gear there permanently unless I could make it out there somewhat regularly. The places I was thinking would be either Vermont or New Hampshire. The Guns I would obviously safe but you see all these YouTube Videos that show how with a little time thief's odds are pretty most Gun Safes.

I am curious what others experience has been. If I could take only one Gun and it was a Handgun I would take my Glock 30SF in .45 ACP Gen 3. As for long gun I would go with a 12GA Pump that chambered from 2 3/4" to 3 1/2" Shells. I do not own an AR so I guess no need to worry how that would work out.

Honestly my first concern would be where am I going to be safe and have access to the necessities such as food and shelter and water. I live in the Suburbs and this place will be completely uninhabitable in just a few hours. I expect people will start either cut and run or start killing others for supplies.
 
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I can see big city folks wanting to bug out. But for millions of us, staying home would be the best bet.

I remember the aftermath of Hurricane Andrew in south Florida years ago. If you have GASOLINE and PROPANE, you were OK. Gas let your generator run, which in turn gave you outside communications and kept your food cold. Propane to cook and sterilize water.

It was $25 per day to keep that generator running and that was gas prices from many years ago.

When the SHTF, you need lots of gas, propane and CASH. Ain't no working ATM's with any cash in them.

I was living up in Southwest Broward County when Andrew Hit in Bonaventure and was in a Burger King when a Guy walked in with box of those 65 Gallon Lawn Bags and wanted to buy all their Ice. I imagine he was going to retire after gouging the poor folks down in Dade assuming he wasn't caught and arrested. The manager sent him on his way without the Ice. Those were interesting times.
 
When you think about it, in all of the natural and man-made disasters that have occurred in the United States in the last, oh, 25 years or so, those impacted most directly have for the most part been able to survive the aftermaths. Yes, there was some looting in some cases, and desperate (though not fatal) circumstances due to lack of power and shortages of food and medicine and so forth -- but really, very few people have ever died as a result of the temporary "collapse of society" in the United States to use that term very loosely. We are a modern democratic society, the richest nation in the world, and we are a nation that reaches out to help those who have experienced these tragedies. I don't think that's going to change; it's part of who we are.

Doesn't mean some epic, huge catastrophe on a national or international scale couldn't happen, or won't. (The Bible says that it will, and I believe that, and am trying to make the necessary preparations to "survive" that one. :)) But I would just encourage anyone who fears total collapse to remember that it has never happened, and that if it ever does, surviving long-term in the aftermath probably won't really be worth it. So instead of devoting so much time and resources to preparing for it, why not work in the here and now to make things better for yourself and, especially, other people?

Tomorrow is never promised anyway; only the strength for today. So live and do your best in this moment, which is the one that matters.

Just my opinion.
 
I was living up in Southwest Broward County when Andrew Hit in Bonaventure and was in a Burger King when a Guy walked in with box of those 65 Gallon Lawn Bags and wanted to buy all their Ice. I imagine he was going to retire after gouging the poor folks down in Dade assuming he wasn't caught and arrested. The manager sent him on his way without the Ice. Those were interesting times.

I would have let him buy one full bag, just to see him try to get it out the door . . . :cool:
 
The best part of my bug out plan is that there is already a supply of guns and ammo there. Hunting cabins are great places to store some guns, ammo, bows and fishing rods. Quite aways off the beaten path surrounded by nearly 60 acres of food plots. Now I truely hope the **** never hits the fan but if it does my old mans dream that became reality really fits the situation. Darn nice hunting property as well.

Ohh I would just take an ar for the trip.

You can't do that in Texas. The illegals crossing the border are cleaning out all the deer camps and cabins. Several hunters I know have stopped hunting in South Texas.
 
Anything's possible I suppose. Preparing for the eventuality is one thing, in a practical sense. However, I think believing that it is inevitable is irrational.
 
My initial plan is to shelter in place and see what happens. Especially since everyone will be "heading for the hills" initially or a lot of them will. Board up the windows and barricade doors and try to sit it out for a spell. I can always head to the hills later if need be.
 
My initial plan is to shelter in place and see what happens. Especially since everyone will be "heading for the hills" initially or a lot of them will. Board up the windows and barricade doors and try to sit it out for a spell. I can always head to the hills later if need be.

Your first choice better be your best choice since the longer something like that is going on, the harder it will be to move anywhere else.
Home is the place for me and mine.
 
It would a heck of a lot easier than having to haul all the camping equipment, food, ammo, and firearms to a different location.


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I would stay at My House and let what happens happen.
I have the propper amount of firepower to make any looter wish He never met Me.
 
No bugging out for me. I am staying right here with my guns, my family, my friends, my food, etc. There is strength in numbers, and we have that right here.
 
My initial plan is to shelter in place and see what happens. Especially since everyone will be "heading for the hills" initially or a lot of them will. Board up the windows and barricade doors and try to sit it out for a spell. I can always head to the hills later if need be.

Depends on where you live. In an urban setting like SoCal, if you aren't already out, you aren't getting out, at least not by car. Small 6-8 family unit, bug in, scavenge what everyone else leaves behind.
If I had to leave, going light, g32 w/ spare 9 & 40 bbls. You aren't going to be able to carry a lot of ammo. Going heavy, same g32 + an ar & as much ammo as I can stuff on a vehicle, on top of the food & water.
 
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