CAJUNLAWYER
Member
Alright....so what'd I miss?????
Is it me (probably) or are forum posters scary?
- Thread starter 44 special Dave
- Start date
mc5aw
Member
We were all newbies once, and uninformed on particular subjects.
I consider this forum to be the gold standard of forums, irrespective of content area. I have visited other firearms forums that, to be honest, are online freak shows. Those are the ones I consider scary. The S&W Forum has always been what I consider an exclusive club, open to all, but attracting the most knowledgeable and discerning firearms aficionados. As gun ownership has increased, along with CCW applications, over the past few years, more "entry level" individuals have walked through the doors of our exclusive club. Most are good folks looking for information and shared passion, some are jackwagons behind computer screens who offer nothing but trouble. It's a simple law of averages ... the more people owning firearms, the more potential for them to join forums for various reasons. I try to pass on experience and knowledge that others on the forum have been kind enough to do for me in the past, but I also steer clear of the occasional "scary" poster, simply as a courtesy to other forum members and to avoid becoming uncivil in tone.
Interestingly, I've noticed a similar increase in "scary" patrons at my LGS for the same reasons as stated above. Ten years back, I didn't know what a Mall Ninja was ... now they're commonly sighted on forums and in gun stores, and I've encountered them far too often in my travels.
Personally speaking, I'll tolerate an occasional "scary" poster in exchange for the privilege of being a proud member of the S&W Forum. It's the cost of doing business ...
I consider this forum to be the gold standard of forums, irrespective of content area. I have visited other firearms forums that, to be honest, are online freak shows. Those are the ones I consider scary. The S&W Forum has always been what I consider an exclusive club, open to all, but attracting the most knowledgeable and discerning firearms aficionados. As gun ownership has increased, along with CCW applications, over the past few years, more "entry level" individuals have walked through the doors of our exclusive club. Most are good folks looking for information and shared passion, some are jackwagons behind computer screens who offer nothing but trouble. It's a simple law of averages ... the more people owning firearms, the more potential for them to join forums for various reasons. I try to pass on experience and knowledge that others on the forum have been kind enough to do for me in the past, but I also steer clear of the occasional "scary" poster, simply as a courtesy to other forum members and to avoid becoming uncivil in tone.
Interestingly, I've noticed a similar increase in "scary" patrons at my LGS for the same reasons as stated above. Ten years back, I didn't know what a Mall Ninja was ... now they're commonly sighted on forums and in gun stores, and I've encountered them far too often in my travels.
Personally speaking, I'll tolerate an occasional "scary" poster in exchange for the privilege of being a proud member of the S&W Forum. It's the cost of doing business ...
Joewisc
US Veteran
By the way, just when you think you know everything, there are a few useless facts that you may not have heard of, including.
1. Panama hats are made in Ecuador.
2. Reindeer like to eat bananas.
3. Mel Blanc (the voice of Bugs Bunny) was allergic to carrots.
4. More people are killed annually by donkeys than plane crashes.
5. Most American cars honk in the key of F.
6. One-quarter of bones in the human body are in your feet.
7. A giraffe can go without water longer than a camel.
8. It is illegal to hunt camels in Arizona.
9. In a lifetime the average person produces enough spit to filling two swimming pools. (don't ask me what size)
10. The longest recorded flight of a chicken is thirteen seconds.
1. Panama hats are made in Ecuador.
2. Reindeer like to eat bananas.
3. Mel Blanc (the voice of Bugs Bunny) was allergic to carrots.
4. More people are killed annually by donkeys than plane crashes.
5. Most American cars honk in the key of F.
6. One-quarter of bones in the human body are in your feet.
7. A giraffe can go without water longer than a camel.
8. It is illegal to hunt camels in Arizona.
9. In a lifetime the average person produces enough spit to filling two swimming pools. (don't ask me what size)
10. The longest recorded flight of a chicken is thirteen seconds.
fiasconva
US Veteran
I just want you all to know I am not one of the scary ones. The voices in my head told me so.
deadin
US Veteran
Unfortunately it seems that there are some born knowing all they are ever going to.
Luckily those types don't stay around here very long.BTW, I knew #'s 3, 6 & 8
ogilvyspecial
Member
I know the type of place well, which is why I came and settled here. Too much drama for me.
On that "other forum" there are LEO's, I know, I bought guns from at least four of them, but
they rarely, if ever, post in the general forums due to getting flamed for being "the enemy."
All that real world experience, that others could learn from, just sitting on the sidelines.
OP
44 special Dave
Member
To Cajunlawyer; great post. I don't know what'd we all miss?
There have been some great responses. I suppose this forum is a cross section of society, kinda. But I know some folks who are bat **** crazy and who luckily don't own guns.
Someone said there are experts and victums? I don't consider myself a victum so I guess I'm an expert of what I have no idea.
I have a way of inciting responses. I had a thread entititled;
"this forum is at it's best when, is at it's worst when".
There were some absolutely hilarious responses. Especially when I said this forum is at it's worst when a thread gets hijacked. Well what do you suppose happened on the 3rd response? Go ahead guess.
I guess what worries me is that are more people become casual gun owners for personal defense reasons, they rely more on movies and tv than they do study, study, investigate, learn etc.
Dave
There have been some great responses. I suppose this forum is a cross section of society, kinda. But I know some folks who are bat **** crazy and who luckily don't own guns.
Someone said there are experts and victums? I don't consider myself a victum so I guess I'm an expert of what I have no idea.
I have a way of inciting responses. I had a thread entititled;
"this forum is at it's best when, is at it's worst when".
There were some absolutely hilarious responses. Especially when I said this forum is at it's worst when a thread gets hijacked. Well what do you suppose happened on the 3rd response? Go ahead guess.
I guess what worries me is that are more people become casual gun owners for personal defense reasons, they rely more on movies and tv than they do study, study, investigate, learn etc.
Dave
Those "scary" people are everywhere, not just the internet. They frequent gun shops and gun shows and turn to youtube for their training.
I can't condemn a new guy for asking questions as long as he has an open mind. Too many questions are asked by people that either don't want to hear the truth or get mad when you disagree or offer a different opinion.
I've always said that when you peruse gun forums, your BS filter should be set on high!
I can't condemn a new guy for asking questions as long as he has an open mind. Too many questions are asked by people that either don't want to hear the truth or get mad when you disagree or offer a different opinion.
I've always said that when you peruse gun forums, your BS filter should be set on high!
S. Hammer
Member
You sir, have hit on the one thing that make me cringe every time I see a post that starts with "Got a new Toy!" While the poster may never intend to use his new gun as a weapon, it ain't a toy!
To the OP:
Why are they scary? Because some don't share the same viewpoint as you on everything?
I get the impression here that some think everyone should just walk in lock step with everyone else. Sorry, that's not the real world.
People can, and should have differing opinions on most subjects. Otherwise, how are we any different than soviet russia, or communist china, or the taliban.
But honestly this sounds a lot like a political thread.
Why are they scary? Because some don't share the same viewpoint as you on everything?
I get the impression here that some think everyone should just walk in lock step with everyone else. Sorry, that's not the real world.
People can, and should have differing opinions on most subjects. Otherwise, how are we any different than soviet russia, or communist china, or the taliban.
But honestly this sounds a lot like a political thread.
jlrhiner
US Veteran
Think about something you've done, that you felt you had to. You only know so much about it, just enough to use it but not enough to truly master it. (cell phones come to mind). We have many people that have come to firearms because they felt they had to, either for personal protection or a fear they may never get the chance to own them. Their level of commitment is low, after all, they drive big cars really fast and make million dollar decisions all day. Occasionally, the come on a forum like ours and ask a question. How their received determines their continued level of interest.
Once in a while, someone comes here to agitate or troll. They usually don't last long, but their fun for a bit.
The ones that really get me are the folks that put out stupid and dangerous information as if it were gospel. They express opinions about things that theyve never experienced, just because they read someone else's opinion or saw their video on YouTube. All in an effort to sound knowledgeable or superior.
Fortunately on this forum, they usually get corrected. We have a vast pool of knowledge here that will advise someone who is errant, and jump on those that are dangerous. Information is valuable, correct information is priceless.
Once in a while, someone comes here to agitate or troll. They usually don't last long, but their fun for a bit.
The ones that really get me are the folks that put out stupid and dangerous information as if it were gospel. They express opinions about things that theyve never experienced, just because they read someone else's opinion or saw their video on YouTube. All in an effort to sound knowledgeable or superior.
Fortunately on this forum, they usually get corrected. We have a vast pool of knowledge here that will advise someone who is errant, and jump on those that are dangerous. Information is valuable, correct information is priceless.
Nip I don't think you understand. He's not referring to those that think differently or have a different opinion. He's referring to those that do things for the wrong reason or in an unsafe manner.
I can think of a few recent threads but it would be unwise to use them as examples. But when it comes to guns there is definitely a right way and a wrong way. That's not opinion but fact. Some people confuse the two and that's where we have problems.
OP
44 special Dave
Member
to nipster: ??? Huh?
Having a differing opinion is not what I'm talking about. That's all fine and well. Somebody likes model 19s someone else likes model 586s. Who cares.
I'm talking about people who do downright scary/stupid things with guns and come right out and admit it.
There are proper ways and uses of firearms.
What you said in your post is way off into the weeds as far as this being anywhere near a political thread.
Others don't have to think like me. But irresponsible use of firearms is irresponsible use of firearms.
Most here know the difference between responsible and irresponsible.
Dave
Having a differing opinion is not what I'm talking about. That's all fine and well. Somebody likes model 19s someone else likes model 586s. Who cares.
I'm talking about people who do downright scary/stupid things with guns and come right out and admit it.
There are proper ways and uses of firearms.
What you said in your post is way off into the weeds as far as this being anywhere near a political thread.
Others don't have to think like me. But irresponsible use of firearms is irresponsible use of firearms.
Most here know the difference between responsible and irresponsible.
Dave
Ok, I completely misunderstood you.
I agree with you completely then. I have actually posted in the comments on people's youtube videos when I see people doing stupid/dangerous stuff, and 9 times out of 10, I will get emails and comments back telling me why they are not doing anything wrong.
People who are unaware and are asking for information or to actually learn something are quite different from the clods who think it is just about the funniest thing they've seen to let a nimrod fire a S&W 500 Mag and get hit in the head with the gun from recoil. These boorish slugs deserve a few educational minutes with a pillowcase full of doorknobs. There are some people who don't deserve the freedoms others gave them through their sacrifice.
Ain't it funny how some people think anonymity makes them braver?
I'm on a few other forums and some of the threads start out interesting but then degenerate to useless, childish bickering.
I always come back to this forum. The members are helpful and knowledgable. I try to advise when I can but if I don't have the correct info I keep my mouth shut, or my fingers still.
I always come back to this forum. The members are helpful and knowledgable. I try to advise when I can but if I don't have the correct info I keep my mouth shut, or my fingers still.
M3Stuart
Member
I do truly believe that; besides requiring licenses for things like cars - that they should require a license to wear spandex.
Well, I dunno. People who do foolish things with guns through carelessness, and then confess to negligence in a post, well, I think they serve to remind us to be ever vigilant in our safe handling of guns. I think that their conscience troubles them, and by confessing and publicly embarrassing themselves, which is painful, they are also making the point to themselves to exercise more care in the future.
I think the ones to worry more about are the ones who sweep these incidents under the rug without a lot of reflection.
I think the ones to worry more about are the ones who sweep these incidents under the rug without a lot of reflection.
novalty
Member
Don't mind me...
Similar threads
