Is the Blue Book of Gun Values serious?

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Will the Blue Book of Gun Values ever catch up to actual fair market value or will it always be lagging so far behind? I never use the Blue Book when purchasing or selling pre lock Smith & Wesson revolvers because it is so inaccurate. For example: a pre lock "S" SN prefix 28-2 from 1967 in 95% condition for $350? Seriously? What about a pre lock 19-4 with a 2.5 inch barrel in 95% condition for $325 Are you kidding me? These are only a couple examples, but there are many more. It makes the Blue Book seem completely pointless to own. I have only purchased the last 3 editions (37th, 38th, and 39th), so I don't know how off it was in previous years. Has it always been so far off? Will it ever catch back up? Let me know your thoughts and thanks for letting me vent!
 
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The BB is completely useless when it comes to S&W revolvers (especially prices) in my opinion. Given its production schedule, by the time it hits the streets it is at least 1 1/2 years behind. But even that doesn't explain the stupid price structure.

The last one I bought was the 32d Edition. A waste of money. Much better to spend those dollars on reloading supplies. Or a couple Big Macs with fries.
 
By the very nature of publishing it will always be months if not a few years behind the actual value. It takes months to put together the information, check the numbers, edit and then print a book. Just look what happened with Colt snake guns like the Python a few years ago. Values can really take off so in very short period guns can double, triple, quadruple i weeks and months. When a book went to press it can already be way off when a run on something takes place.

Next you need to understand how many of the values are generated. Most of the new production firearms it appears are just straight-line depreciated from the normal list price. That also seems to be how they come up with prices on a lot of collectables. Reality is guns depreciate on a curve as condition drops. Often that curve can be pretty darn steep when a gun drops below 80% or 90%.

My understanding is they don't really go out and look at the actual market for each and every firearm listed. There just isn't time.

On more specialized collectables say like Colt SAA, older Winchesters, shotguns like Parker and Foxes, etc., I've heard they contact collectors and experts in those firearms to help with values...(okay I can see that some of those top collectors may have a conflict of interest when it comes to giving values of what they collect but that is just me) On much of that stuff the top values are as far out of whack from reality as are the 10% prices.

I look at the Blue Book as a place to start when valuing a gun. I find recently closed auctions a much better guide when it comes to hitting an actual "today's" value.

Okay that was my ramble for the day...forgive typos and missed words.
 
The Blue Book is a relic from the past. It was made obsolete by the internet years ago. I like that it exists because it means there are people even more behind the times than me. How much is this gun worth? Lets see. Let me pull out this dusty outdated analog clump of cheap paper and see what the price guess was a decade or two ago. Sounds legit.
 
The Blue Book information on price is useless. It's like the old cowboy saying first one to water barrel is weakest guy. I have several off them that have been picked up outdated for a buck. If you are up on the editions you may not realize how old the edition prices are being quoted out of. It's hard to find the year with book in your hand.
 
Yeah, a serious waste of money. Haven't bought one of those in years. Does have some pretty pictures in it though. :D
 
It appears some are failing to understand the purpose of the Blue Book----much as many folks fail to understand the purpose of fishing tackle. Many will tell you fishing tackle is made to catch fish. The fact of the matter is it's made to sell to fisherman.

So----to all who think the Blue Book is published to help you determine the value of guns, I say-----------------think about it. It shouldn't take long.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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I think you can get a more present day pricing by seeing what many guns are going for on GB or GA.
Gun prices can fluctuate a lot and I don't see blue book pricing being something to go by.
 
As a person who likes to trade at gun shows, I find that anyone who uses it to determine a guns price is way behind the times. Or more often, they try to buy citing the books prices, but when it comes to selling they have a completely different pricing structure. I find the book good for other information, but leave the pricing to sources more "in touch."
 
The book is a good source to show relative values between models but is a waste for showing real market value. I've seen buyers and sellers use it to gain advantage when making deals. Naivete has no place in gun dealing.
 
I bought my last book a bunch of years back. It does have some good gun info in it, but its prices are very dated. I doubt at this time I will ever buy another, way too much info and clues to real prices available on line. This forum is a good example.
 
I use the online subscription because I just don't feel right unless I waste at least some money now and then.

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The problem with the Blue Book is that gun value, even with something like a Registered Magnum, is a very regional, localized phenomenon. I like it for the detailed info on various configurations, and it's helpful to know what a certain gun went for new. You can also take the value drop or increase applied by the Blue Book to the various percentages and do your own math on the local price. It's helpful to me, but it takes some extra effort . . .
 
So how exactly do you look up values on the internet? What sites do you use?
I know one dealer who looked on gun broker to see what a certain model is going for.
Is that what you guys are talking about?
 
GunBroker is probably the best, but you need to make sure you're looking at (edit: recently) completed auctions, not the current ones . . .

So how exactly do you look up values on the internet? What sites do you use?
I know one dealer who looked on gun broker to see what a certain model is going for.
Is that what you guys are talking about?
 
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