ThomasH
Member
Hello folks,
I recently acquired a S&W Model 1006 built on 22-Feb-1990 (according to S&W, based on the serial number).
I have heard about the “3rd Generation Auto Recall” for the S&W auto pistols, but I wasn’t sure if it affected the 1006 10 mm pistols or just the 1076 model. I did check the pistol I received and it still has the original grips (I’m sure I’ll get the Hogue rubber grips) , the yellow magazine followers and no dots stamped under the decocking lever.
A forum member over at The Firing Line was nice enough to summarize the “3rd Gen Recall issues thusly:
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Congrats with your S&W1006! It takes a little time to get the feel for the trigger on these as they have a fair amount of take-up before the break. As you build your proficiency your groups will tighten up even more!
My S&W1006 (since Mar 1990) has the adjustable sights and they are more refined for target or hunting as opposed to the quicker acquisition of the fixed sights.
I notice your magazines have the original yellow followers...the newer are white see below. I don't think S&W is doing any swap outs anymore for the followers. I have never had any issues using the yellow or the white followers, with any ammunition.
S&W 3rd Gen Recall info
1.) Grips - early grips were made of a material that when dropped could break. The material was switched and newer manufactured grips have a punch mark on the base between the back of the frame and the take down hole. These will be replaced free by S&W.
2.) Followers - all yellow followers were recalled for law enforcement and new white (10mm) and black (45) were furnished with newer heavy duty magazine springs. This was an enhancement and not a total recall; hence LE only got the free treatment. You can call and if they authorize the free replacement the magazines must be returned to the factory. They are very fast returning them.
3.) Decocking levers - there existed a problem with all decocking lever type guns like 1076, 1026, 4576 etc, in all calibers. The recall requires return to the factory and when the recall is completed the frame is stamped with two dots under the decocking lever that are visible when the lever is depressed.
Something you may wish to consider is replacing the recoil spring. I use the Wolff Gun Springs 22 lb spring in mine, as this keeps brass from flying into low earth orbit. It also serves to manage recoil and slide timing/velocity. The 22 lb recoil spring has worked with all of my 10 mm and also with my 40 S&W and 9x25 Dillon using Bar-Sto conversion barrels. Don't bother asking Bar-Sto about barrels for these as they haven't made any in a long time. We tried to do a group buy thing which didn't work out! There is a man on S&W forum who is trying to do some barrels but he hasn't finished them yet...
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I called S&W to ask if I need to return my 1006 for any of this, and a nice fellow named Jeff said:
1) He had not heard anything about the grips being recalled, and could not find anything about that in his database.
2) The update of the magazine followers was not a recall, just a “nice upgrade” that was offered to LEO for free, but he thought he could get it done for my magazines if I wanted. (No mention of cost, but no promise it would be free either.)
3) His knowledge base does not list the 1006 model as being part of the decocking lever recall, only the 10xx models were mentioned in the listings, like the 1076 and 1026 (and others model as well).
So, (and I apologize for being so long winded!) do you folks know if the 1006 actually has the decocking lever problem?
A) Should I send in the gun and have it examined? Jeff said the build date is right when the problem guns were being built, and offered to have mine examined, but I get the feeling they are just going to shake their heads at my paranoia and put two stamps under the decocking lever and call it done!
Of course, if I sent the gun in I would also send the magazines. (And I would beg them to return the original grips - or do you think I should send it in with the rubber Hogue grips to be safe?)
B) Just send the magazines in to have the follower upgrade, as the 1006 never did have the decocker problem? I have used all three magazines (once or twice each) and didn’t have any trouble, but it sounds like the newer followers have “some” advantage.
C) Don’t send them a thing, just get those Hogue rubber grips and shoot the shot out the thing!
Thanks for reading this! Sorry it is so long!
- Thomas
I recently acquired a S&W Model 1006 built on 22-Feb-1990 (according to S&W, based on the serial number).
I have heard about the “3rd Generation Auto Recall” for the S&W auto pistols, but I wasn’t sure if it affected the 1006 10 mm pistols or just the 1076 model. I did check the pistol I received and it still has the original grips (I’m sure I’ll get the Hogue rubber grips) , the yellow magazine followers and no dots stamped under the decocking lever.
A forum member over at The Firing Line was nice enough to summarize the “3rd Gen Recall issues thusly:
**********************************************
Congrats with your S&W1006! It takes a little time to get the feel for the trigger on these as they have a fair amount of take-up before the break. As you build your proficiency your groups will tighten up even more!
My S&W1006 (since Mar 1990) has the adjustable sights and they are more refined for target or hunting as opposed to the quicker acquisition of the fixed sights.
I notice your magazines have the original yellow followers...the newer are white see below. I don't think S&W is doing any swap outs anymore for the followers. I have never had any issues using the yellow or the white followers, with any ammunition.
S&W 3rd Gen Recall info
1.) Grips - early grips were made of a material that when dropped could break. The material was switched and newer manufactured grips have a punch mark on the base between the back of the frame and the take down hole. These will be replaced free by S&W.
2.) Followers - all yellow followers were recalled for law enforcement and new white (10mm) and black (45) were furnished with newer heavy duty magazine springs. This was an enhancement and not a total recall; hence LE only got the free treatment. You can call and if they authorize the free replacement the magazines must be returned to the factory. They are very fast returning them.
3.) Decocking levers - there existed a problem with all decocking lever type guns like 1076, 1026, 4576 etc, in all calibers. The recall requires return to the factory and when the recall is completed the frame is stamped with two dots under the decocking lever that are visible when the lever is depressed.
Something you may wish to consider is replacing the recoil spring. I use the Wolff Gun Springs 22 lb spring in mine, as this keeps brass from flying into low earth orbit. It also serves to manage recoil and slide timing/velocity. The 22 lb recoil spring has worked with all of my 10 mm and also with my 40 S&W and 9x25 Dillon using Bar-Sto conversion barrels. Don't bother asking Bar-Sto about barrels for these as they haven't made any in a long time. We tried to do a group buy thing which didn't work out! There is a man on S&W forum who is trying to do some barrels but he hasn't finished them yet...
**********************************************
I called S&W to ask if I need to return my 1006 for any of this, and a nice fellow named Jeff said:
1) He had not heard anything about the grips being recalled, and could not find anything about that in his database.
2) The update of the magazine followers was not a recall, just a “nice upgrade” that was offered to LEO for free, but he thought he could get it done for my magazines if I wanted. (No mention of cost, but no promise it would be free either.)
3) His knowledge base does not list the 1006 model as being part of the decocking lever recall, only the 10xx models were mentioned in the listings, like the 1076 and 1026 (and others model as well).
So, (and I apologize for being so long winded!) do you folks know if the 1006 actually has the decocking lever problem?
A) Should I send in the gun and have it examined? Jeff said the build date is right when the problem guns were being built, and offered to have mine examined, but I get the feeling they are just going to shake their heads at my paranoia and put two stamps under the decocking lever and call it done!
Of course, if I sent the gun in I would also send the magazines. (And I would beg them to return the original grips - or do you think I should send it in with the rubber Hogue grips to be safe?)B) Just send the magazines in to have the follower upgrade, as the 1006 never did have the decocker problem? I have used all three magazines (once or twice each) and didn’t have any trouble, but it sounds like the newer followers have “some” advantage.
C) Don’t send them a thing, just get those Hogue rubber grips and shoot the shot out the thing!
Thanks for reading this! Sorry it is so long!
- Thomas
. Oh and I vote for option C except I would keep the factory grips.
