My first one was many years ago.Wife asked me if I wanted to go to the hospital and I said...NO... if the indians could stand the pain I would be able to also...20 mins later she asked again...I said yes. She took me to the ER(where she worked)...told the doc on duty what I said...he told me that most indians with kidney stones go out and fall on a dull arrow to get away from the excrutiating pain. He and my wife were both asses. They both laughed at me. Lithotripsy is your friend! Since then have had a few gravel incidents. Still...not fun