m657
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......"I just washed my gun and can't do a THING with it".....*kaff*kaff*....
......"I just washed my gun and can't do a THING with it".....*kaff*kaff*....
ITS NOT THE GUN: Its YOU!
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OK Hog Shooter
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All I know is that every gun I have shoots better than I am capable of... and that's all I got to say about that!
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bushmaster1313
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I only had one gun that shot bad, a Ruger Mini-30.
Every other gun I ever shot was more accurate than me.
Every other gun I ever shot was more accurate than me.
Amen. Shooting is 98% mental, and in my case I tend to get in my own way. Add to that that about the time we DO learn how to shoot we forget how to SEE.
I want decent sights and a decent--preferably a great--trigger. Stocks that fit matter quite a lot. Many years ago I took an NRA instructor's course from an old Chicago cop; since it was before the Invasion of the Wondernines the subject was wheelguns. He convinced me that the front sight was really, really important, and sold me on "ball and dummy" practice. Best advice I ever got, and I pass it on every chance I get.
The last thing is that some guns really make me look good--and sometimes they're the plain-Jane ones. I shoot them better on a bad day than some others on a good day. I don't always know quite why but I'm all for it. I'm trying to get more of the former and clear out the latter.
I want decent sights and a decent--preferably a great--trigger. Stocks that fit matter quite a lot. Many years ago I took an NRA instructor's course from an old Chicago cop; since it was before the Invasion of the Wondernines the subject was wheelguns. He convinced me that the front sight was really, really important, and sold me on "ball and dummy" practice. Best advice I ever got, and I pass it on every chance I get.
The last thing is that some guns really make me look good--and sometimes they're the plain-Jane ones. I shoot them better on a bad day than some others on a good day. I don't always know quite why but I'm all for it. I'm trying to get more of the former and clear out the latter.
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I will admit it: I suck with a 38special snubnose. I probably could not fight my way out of a phone booth with one. I am lefty, and I consistently shoot right with my 9504. My 'cheap' Rock Island 45 is a ragged-one-hole gun. I can do decent with a 357 with a 6inch barrel.
It's all me. And, if I am in a good frame of mind, I can make myself shoot very well with each gun, except that 38.
Of course, my son can offhand shoot the 38 at 25 yards and put 3 out of 5 in the center ring on a man target. So, with that said, he must have put a hex on me and the 38...........
It's all me. And, if I am in a good frame of mind, I can make myself shoot very well with each gun, except that 38.
Of course, my son can offhand shoot the 38 at 25 yards and put 3 out of 5 in the center ring on a man target. So, with that said, he must have put a hex on me and the 38...........
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Gawd, I know before the trigger even gets pulled completely sometimes.
And then, therer is that time when I look downrange, see a between the eyes hit when I was aiming at the chest...... and wonder "Who shot my target for me while I wasn't looking??!!"
BCDWYO
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5Wire
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Love it! However, don't overlook the fact that many a good firearm has been acquired cheaply from a disgruntled shooter.
Just last month my brother bought a nice old model 99 Savage chambered for the venerable 300 Savage. On our first trip to the range it shot slightly to the left for him while it tended to group my shots slightly to the right. Maybe it's how we talk to it that matters. I can't honestly believe that different shooters would have such an affect on accuracy.
John
Just last month my brother bought a nice old model 99 Savage chambered for the venerable 300 Savage. On our first trip to the range it shot slightly to the left for him while it tended to group my shots slightly to the right. Maybe it's how we talk to it that matters. I can't honestly believe that different shooters would have such an affect on accuracy.
John
That You Tube video is slow loading...
"Ball and dummy" aka "skip loading" is simply loading three live rounds into a revolver cylinder--two rounds into adjacent chambers, "skip" one chamber, and plug the third round in. Then spin the cylinder without looking at it, and close it. Each time you squeeze the trigger you have exactly a 50% chance of getting a "click" (or a bang).
The point is to develop trigger control and follow-through. The noise and fiction of the weapon firing covers what you did, or think you did at the moment of firing. Hence "The sights were right on when I squeezed (yanked?) the shot off".
It's the empty chambers that tell the story. If you do it right, when the hammer falls, NOTHING HAPPENS. The sights stay aligned, the muzzle does not dive "low and left", you do not close your eyes and grimace. if your follow through was very, very good, it was defitely a good shot; congratulate yourself. Then do it again. Nobody else may know what you're doing or how well you did it, but YOU DO.
Not only does it stretch the ammo supply, but the instructor can wander off for a beverage while you stand there and beat yourself up. Everybody wins. It really works.
Variations are obvious. Doing this with lightweight snubs (just adjust the rounds in the 5 shooters) cushions impact; load 1/4 or 1/6; use .22LR; for semi autos throw some dummy rounds in the mix.
It's all very simple--just maintain sight alignment through the shot, cause the hammer to fall without disturbing same, and lots of follow through.
It's just not easy to do each and every time! (and I don't, either.)
"Ball and dummy" aka "skip loading" is simply loading three live rounds into a revolver cylinder--two rounds into adjacent chambers, "skip" one chamber, and plug the third round in. Then spin the cylinder without looking at it, and close it. Each time you squeeze the trigger you have exactly a 50% chance of getting a "click" (or a bang).
The point is to develop trigger control and follow-through. The noise and fiction of the weapon firing covers what you did, or think you did at the moment of firing. Hence "The sights were right on when I squeezed (yanked?) the shot off".
It's the empty chambers that tell the story. If you do it right, when the hammer falls, NOTHING HAPPENS. The sights stay aligned, the muzzle does not dive "low and left", you do not close your eyes and grimace. if your follow through was very, very good, it was defitely a good shot; congratulate yourself. Then do it again. Nobody else may know what you're doing or how well you did it, but YOU DO.
Not only does it stretch the ammo supply, but the instructor can wander off for a beverage while you stand there and beat yourself up. Everybody wins. It really works.
Variations are obvious. Doing this with lightweight snubs (just adjust the rounds in the 5 shooters) cushions impact; load 1/4 or 1/6; use .22LR; for semi autos throw some dummy rounds in the mix.
It's all very simple--just maintain sight alignment through the shot, cause the hammer to fall without disturbing same, and lots of follow through.
It's just not easy to do each and every time! (and I don't, either.)
bushmaster1313
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Love it! However, don't overlook the fact that many a good firearm has been acquired cheaply from a disgruntled shooter.
Just last month my brother bought a nice old model 99 Savage chambered for the venerable 300 Savage. On our first trip to the range it shot slightly to the left for him while it tended to group my shots slightly to the right. Maybe it's how we talk to it that matters. I can't honestly believe that different shooters would have such an affect on accuracy.
John
Accuracy is not precision.
Accuracy can be fixed or compensated for
beach elvis
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When a guy says his gun is more accurate than he can shoot it, I get the inpression that thre's a sense of honesty in that man.
Me? I blame my inaccuracy on the inability to concentrate due to all of the dang screaming from the topless waitresses.
Me? I blame my inaccuracy on the inability to concentrate due to all of the dang screaming from the topless waitresses.
BCDWYO
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Thanks Bat Guano...I will definitely do this drill more often!...love the simplicity. Ironically, I have inadvertantly done this drill on occasion due to my use of hard CCI primers and intermittent light strikes with some of my revolvers! (but that is another thread).
Denver Dick
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Relevant story:
I’ve been shooting Glocks since 1992. After cursing my first Glock during the first 3 or 4 range sessions back in '92, I (that's me, not the pistol) finally got it and the group shrunk by 60% and move near the x ring. Since then I have always shot Glocks well.
About 7 years ago I was visiting my local indoor range . . . a lot! On many occasions a guy or gal with his or her new Glock would be shooting one or two positions over. The group (if one could call it that) would be all over the place and even if the group was decent, it would be low and left. On several of those occasions, the person would see my target (shot with one of my Glocks) and start a conversation with something like, "Hey that's good shooting. Yeah, my new one just won't do that. I guess I'll have to move the sight."
Since they would always be shooting factory ammo (I don’t shoot other people’s reloads), I would respond with, "Well, why don't you give me three rounds and let me see what I can do with it?" They would almost always smile and say sure. On each and every occasion, I would get a nice little 3 shot group either in or very close to the x ring at 7 yards. I would say, "Well, it doesn't appear to the the pistol. You know Glock triggers can take some getting use to. Concentrate on keeping your sight picture all way through the trigger pull."
In every case, the person’s groups and placement would improve by the end of the session. I think it was just the reassurance that "the gun's okay" that forced them to step up to the plate and concentrate, and that would result in the improvement. It took away the all too easy and often said, "Something’s wrong with this one."
FWIW
I’ve been shooting Glocks since 1992. After cursing my first Glock during the first 3 or 4 range sessions back in '92, I (that's me, not the pistol) finally got it and the group shrunk by 60% and move near the x ring. Since then I have always shot Glocks well.
About 7 years ago I was visiting my local indoor range . . . a lot! On many occasions a guy or gal with his or her new Glock would be shooting one or two positions over. The group (if one could call it that) would be all over the place and even if the group was decent, it would be low and left. On several of those occasions, the person would see my target (shot with one of my Glocks) and start a conversation with something like, "Hey that's good shooting. Yeah, my new one just won't do that. I guess I'll have to move the sight."
Since they would always be shooting factory ammo (I don’t shoot other people’s reloads), I would respond with, "Well, why don't you give me three rounds and let me see what I can do with it?" They would almost always smile and say sure. On each and every occasion, I would get a nice little 3 shot group either in or very close to the x ring at 7 yards. I would say, "Well, it doesn't appear to the the pistol. You know Glock triggers can take some getting use to. Concentrate on keeping your sight picture all way through the trigger pull."
In every case, the person’s groups and placement would improve by the end of the session. I think it was just the reassurance that "the gun's okay" that forced them to step up to the plate and concentrate, and that would result in the improvement. It took away the all too easy and often said, "Something’s wrong with this one."
FWIW
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