Jammed up Smith Revolver.....

You say you are familiar with disassembling/reassembling auto pistols (I think I read that right). If so, you should have zero problem getting that sideplate off. Confirm the gun is unloaded with the wire/dowel/screwdriver, etc.. that you have already discussed.

Remove the grips. You will see three screws on the right side of the weapon, and one screw on the front side of the grip frame (near the bottom). Using a properly fitted screwdriver, remove the three screws on the side. On most revolvers, the two rear screws are identical, but the front screw is different, so keep them separated.

Place the weapon over a folded towel, or something soft to prevent damage to the sideplate when it pops off. Turn the weapon with the left side facing up, and hold it by the barrel/fwd frame with your left hand. With a large screwdriver handle, broomstick, soft-faced hammer, etc., smack the left side of the grip frame. Start with easy blows and the sideplate should pop off after a few taps. If not, hit it harder. If it's stuck on with decades of dried oil/rust, it might take some serious smacks. But, eventually it should pop right off onto the towel. You will also notice another part comes off with it. No worries, that is your hammer block. It's easy to put back on when you reassemble.

With the sideplate off, see if you can see anything obviously wrong (with no revolver experience, you probably won't...but maybe). Now, back off the fourth screw (the one on the front grip frame) two turns. That is the strain screw and backing it off removes most tension on the mainspring. With most of the tension removed, now see if you can manipulate anything.

If it is dirty/gummy/rusty in the internals then spray some automotive brake cleaner all in the workings. If that frees things up, you should be able to see the contacts points and you want to place a drop or two of oil in there. Tighten the strain screw all the way and check for proper function. You DO NOT want to operate it very much with the sideplate removed AND the strain screw tightened. You simply want to see if it works, now. If it does, place the hole in the hammer block over the pin on the recoil slide and push the other end up under the hammer as far as it will go. Gently place the lip on the sideplate under the frame at the top and push it down with finger pressure until it is flush. If it won't go all the way on, it's because the hammer block is not on just right (look at the groove in the sideplate that it rides in). Move it a bit and you will get everything lined up and the sideplate flush. Replace the three sideplate screws (making sure you get them back in their original locations). Check that everything works and reinstall the grips.

If this doesn't work, you might want to call someone. However, if you like to tinker, you can completely strip one and put it back together without too much trouble. It's not rocket science. There are many Youtube videos on it. You don't need to worry about the model number. The basics are the same on all of them, with just minor variations.
 
To the OP. Are those stocks preventing the hammer from coming all the way back? Kinda looks like they are touching in the photo. Looks like they are S&W marked but someone might have swapped them and never checked after they did.
Check to see if that hammer spur is touching the grips.
Maybe by trying to slide a thin piece of cardboard between the hammer and top of the grip. or just remove the grips and see if that does free it up. If so you may have to remove a bit of material on the grip where the hammer makes contact.
 
Check to see if that hammer spur is touching the grips.
Maybe by trying to slide a thin piece of cardboard between the hammer and top of the grip. or just remove the grips and see if that does free it up. If so you may have to remove a bit of material on the grip where the hammer makes contact.

That would keep the gun from functioning for sure. But, if I understand the issue, the gun is now completely locked up. He can't lower the hammer, can't open the cylinder.
 
To the OP. Are those stocks preventing the hammer from coming all the way back? Kinda looks like they are touching in the photo. Looks like they are S&W marked but someone might have swapped them and never checked after they did.


You're right. That does look like a snug fit. I'll examine more closely tomorrow.



FWIW, I've asked some questions of the owner - she says it was purchased new in 2020 and does not believe there were any modifications made at the time of purchase.
 
You're right. That does look like a snug fit. I'll examine more closely tomorrow.



FWIW, I've asked some questions of the owner - she says it was purchased new in 2020 and does not believe there were any modifications made at the time of purchase.
Then it is still under warranty through Smith & Wesson. They will send a shipping label and send it back to you after they repair it. Usually about a 4-6 week turnaround time.
 
Yes, make use of the warranty. Opening up yourself may void the warranty, especially if you break something in the process.

Well, and isn't there something under pressure when it's cocked that could be damaged by taking off the side plate?

Plus the gun is only 5 years old. Hard to imagine the innards are THAT gunked up.
 
Well, and isn't there something under pressure when it's cocked that could be damaged by taking off the side plate?

Plus the gun is only 5 years old. Hard to imagine the innards are THAT gunked up.


Yeah I'm not familiar with the sensitivities of revolvers. My working theory that maybe the storage conditions were less than ideal and maybe it was exposed to some moisture?



One thing is for certain: it's not like she was shooting it enough to cause that kind of mess. Even if you're talking nasty reman, I'd be pretty shocked if she has enough rounds through it to be that dirty.
 
Well, and isn't there something under pressure when it's cocked that could be damaged by taking off the side plate?

Plus the gun is only 5 years old. Hard to imagine the innards are THAT gunked up.

Depends. Some people squirt oil into the action thinking they're doing a good thing. But 5 years old? More likely a mechanical issue. But I'm not sure you can send back a revolver that can't be opened to verify it's unloaded. But loosening the strain screw might allow you to relieve the tension on the hammer.
 
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Judging from the picture in post #14, which I have somehow missed until now, my guess would be that the hammer was cocked too far back and rode up over the trigger. If that happens, the gun is locked up until you take it apart and untangle the hammer and trigger. If that is what actually happened, it's an easy fix. If you're looking for that, it will be obvious as soon as you get the sideplate off.
 
Judging from the picture in post #14, which I have somehow missed until now, my guess would be that the hammer was cocked too far back and rode up over the trigger. If that happens, the gun is locked up until you take it apart and untangle the hammer and trigger. If that is what actually happened, it's an easy fix. If you're looking for that, it will be obvious as soon as you get the sideplate off.

You could be on to something. I went and cocked my 686-4+ and neither the hammer or the trigger sit back that far. The hammer will go that far, but returns to the cocked position.
 
It sounds just like a "old per-historic" handgun you mentioned. Handguns (all guns) require routine maintenance, just like automobiles, or other mechanical devices. They need cleaning and lubrication. I'm guessing it is old grease and oil that has turned to varnish/tar inside your revolver and/or dried up so much the metallic parts just won't move until cleaned and lubed. The internals of a revolver can be damaged if you don't know what you are doing. I recommend taking to a gunsmith to diagnose and treat.
 
You should be able to manipulate the thumb piece to release cylinder. This is only thing that would prevent cylinder from opening. Also hold up to light and see if there is clearance between cylinder face and forcing cone.
May be as simple as an ejector rod that has come loose and jammed the works.
 
You should be able to manipulate the thumb piece to release cylinder. This is only thing that would prevent cylinder from opening. Also hold up to light and see if there is clearance between cylinder face and forcing cone.
Since the hammer is all the way cocked, the cylinder won't open because the hand is in full extension against the ratchets, locking it up. Also, the S&W latch bolt design won't allow the cylinder to open with the hammer cocked. It has a hammer block safety integral with the back of the latch bolt. The sideplate will need to be removed to free up whatever is binding the hammer against the trigger.
 
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