Lady Rents a HK MP5 and Walks Out the Door With It.

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TripLeader said:
The owner is wondering how he will rent out full autos after this. I wonder if that place will have an FFL next year.

...not good on so many levels.
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Fixed it.
"The owner is wondering how he will rent out full autos after this. I wonder if that place will have an FFL next MONTH".

With the presidential order for ENHANCED scrutiny of all FFL violations, I bet they get a compliance visit within the next week to 10 days. I hope they have alternate employment plans.
 
From the above linked article:

"The staff member who also rented out the firearm didn't follow the policy in place to prevent theft's like this from occurring. Felker said the employee accepted cash from the woman instead of a credit card for the transaction. Staff also later realized the I.D. card, which is kept in exchange for a rental, did not belong to the woman and wrote fake information on the liability form."
 
I occasionally shoot at that range, and received an e-mail from them the day after the incident. They had some security camera pictures of the person and the pickup truck, but they were not very good. The truck was a white Ford Ranger with a tool box in the bed right behind the cab. No license plate was visible. The Texas drivers license used by the lady perp belonged to someone who was killed in 2022. Apparently the picture on the DL sort of resembled the thief. Be interesting th find out how she came by that TX DL.

Until this happened, I had no idea that they rented SMGs there. I never heard one being fired at that range.
 
Stories like this make me sick.

We firearms owners are under the gun these days (no pun intended). Every time some sicko uses a gun to commit a crime, the press and certain public figures seize upon the opportunity to argue that our rights need to be curtailed in the name of public safety, that if we just ban this-or-that gun we can somehow make our society safer.

It's absolutely essential that those of us in the 2A community conduct ourselves properly at all times, that we not arm our adversaries by living down to their stereotypes of us, that we not give them the evidence they need to go after us.

I want to scream... :(
 
Rustyt1953 said:
From the above linked article:

"The staff member who also rented out the firearm didn't follow the policy in place to prevent theft's like this from occurring. Felker said the employee accepted cash from the woman instead of a credit card for the transaction. Staff also later realized the I.D. card, which is kept in exchange for a rental, did not belong to the woman and wrote fake information on the liability form."
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Since when has a credit card been a form of ID? In Vegas, you get walked into the range by a counter person carrying the weapon, and they are with you at all times. We don't do the small-town trusting thing too well here in the big city.;)
 
LVSteve said:
Since when has a credit card been a form of ID? In Vegas, you get walked into the range by a counter person carrying the weapon, and they are with you at all times. We don't do the small-town trusting thing too well here in the big city.;)
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Well...the credit card (assuming it's real and not stolen, counterfeit, etc.) is a way to identify the person making the purchase (or in this case, renting the gun)...
 
Beemerguy53 said:
Well...the credit card (assuming it's real and not stolen, counterfeit, etc.) is a way to identify the person making the purchase (or in this case, renting the gun)...
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Yeah, I needed an eyeroll with that comment. Have you tried to pay cash at a half decent hotel in the last five years? Oh, and don't even think of paying cash for an airline ticket on the day unless you just love the fell of fine steel handcuffs.
 
The theft appears to be well thought
out and not only by the woman but
no doubt others who have observed
thoroughly the range's practices.

It definitely wasn't just a sudden crime
of opportunity.

Hopefully more than a day's security
camera footage exists to review
sign ins, parking lot plates, etc.
 
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In Reno, they keep your CC and DL until you're finished shooting your hardware. Gun rentals, especially MGs maybe have more requirements.
 
If this was legit full-auto, long before anyone STEALS the damn thing, it's completely ludicrous that they would rent that to someone and not go with them and be literally within a foot of them simply to ensure the renter doesn't lose complete control and firehose that thing in every conceivable direction.

They probably oughta lose their FFL.
 
Sevens said:
If this was legit full-auto, long before anyone STEALS the damn thing, it's completely ludicrous that they would rent that to someone and not go with them and be literally within a foot of them simply to ensure the renter doesn't lose complete control and firehose that thing in every conceivable direction.

They probably oughta lose their FFL.
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Not until I get my 617 this week. The shooting range is a great place. I received my LTC and have had many guns transferred there. The place is always packed with ex-military shooting. Should they lose their FFL no, should they stop renting machine guns yes. She committed a federal crime, so where is the ATF and FBI, why is the county running point on this one
 
As a result of several suicides the ranges here in NJ and Eastern PA will not rent to a single shooter.
 
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