Leading at muzzle with hitek coating?

[AManWearingAHat]

Odd. I've never had an issue with the Hi-Tek stuff from MBC.

I shoot a lot of the 125gn Cone bullets out of my Browning hi powers. The key is to make sure you have enough case bell at the mouth to not shave off the coating on seating.

 

[loshtersolo]

I shoot HT coated & also do my own. If the coating is cured nicely, should haven't any troubles. Size nonetheless subjects, so 0.401" will be the minimal for Leadership coaching. If you shave the coating for the duration of seating, you can get leading.

 

[Rule3]

Odd. I've never had an issue with the Hi-Tek stuff from MBC.

I shoot a lot of the 125gn Cone bullets out of my Browning hi powers. The key is to make sure you have enough case bell at the mouth to not shave off the coating on seating.

Thousands of customers and millions of bullets can't be right.

 

[dla]

You sure it is "lead" and not just discoloration from the coating, carbon and dirt from the primers?. It would be interesting to find a bullet after it was shoot.
After torture testing several bullets with Hy Tec from MBC I doubt it is lead.

Your coating looks much thicker than mine.

 

[dla]

Got my order from Brazos. They shipped the wrong profile and the wrong diameter.

But at least their Hi Tek coating looks better than Missouri Bullet Company's.

Also, the Monkeys at the post office manage to tear open Brazo's packaging, spilling some bullets. The USPS attached a little note and rewrapped. I've got to figure out how many bullets (of the wrong profile and wrong diameter) I received.

 

[Rule3]

Got my order from Brazos. They shipped the wrong profile and the wrong diameter.

But at least their Hi Tek coating looks better than Missouri Bullet Company's.

Also, the Monkeys at the post office manage to tear open Brazo's packaging, spilling some bullets. The USPS attached a little note and rewrapped. I've got to figure out how many bullets (of the wrong profile and wrong diameter) I received.

Maybe you should just give up and cast and coat your own bullets, Then the would meet your specifications.


I asked if you ever contacted MBC but you did not say. Perhaps you did get some bullets that were not coated correctly, but to say MBC sucks based on your one situation is a bit much. Now Brazos sucks as well as USPS who ar3e monkeys?,??

I believe the owner of MBC, Brad shoots 10mm, he would certainly like to know if you got some poorly coated bullets
In some post in this thread, "spraying" was mentioned. The coating is not sprayed it is more or less dipped and then dipped again. They are sized after coating as it does increase the diameter a fraction. It is the correct way.
On many other reloading forums, MBC has an excellent reputation and offers a small discount to members of those forums. Their website is far and above Brazos to see what you are ordering.

 

[dla]

I believe the owner of MBC, Brad shoots 10mm, he would certainly like to know if you got some poorly coated bullets
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I'll let him know. Didn't make sense to contact him till I'd done my homework. This isn't my first rodeo...

The Brazos slip up is a classic case of someone in the shipping department having a brain fluff. The downside is that returns are a pain to ship (but only $7-$8). When it comes to shipping lead, it pays to do it right the first time.

The USPS issue is the first time I've seen them mangle a package that bad. Brazos put 500+ bullets in a heavy plastic bag and then into a small mailer and taped it heavily. There was just one spot where they didnt run the tape far enough and that is where the package opened.

Nice that you like to wave the pom-poms for your faves

 

[Rule3]

I'll let him know. Didn't make sense to contact him till I'd done my homework. This isn't my first rodeo...



Nice that you like to wave the pom-poms for your faves

Not at all waving fro them, I and many others have had no issue with the company, just don't like to see a bashing of any company without giving them a chance, People bash Midway, Brownells you name it. for some isolated incident. Gotta look at the whole picture.

 

[trikerider]

No problem here with MBC hi-tek bullets. Trikerider

 

[dla]

Update on the Brazos order. I used their "contact us" on their website. Attached some pictures to show the problem. Next day I get notice that they are shipping the correct stuff free of charge.
I really appreciate this because packaging and shipping bullets for returns is a pain in the tushie.

 

[typetwelve]

I have been fighting Missouri 44 Elmer K Hi-Tek ever since I bought them. They too are 18 hardness and it does not matter what I do with them, they lead. Where in the barrel and how much depends on how hard I'm driving them, but I have been completely unsuccessful in getting the stop leading completely. On the other hand, their 12 hardness "cowboy #3" work perfectly.

I asked for advice on many forums and the overall thought is...they're too small in dia for my super redhawk, and too hard. Fixing either of those issues would probably fix the issue...sadly, Missouri doesn't give the option to get them in a larger dia, so I have to go softer, thus the CB #3.

Sadly, I'm mostly just out the $$ I spent on the harder ones...but you live, you learn.

 

[dla]

I have been fighting Missouri 44 Elmer K Hi-Tek ever since I bought them. They too are 18 hardness and it does not matter what I do with them, they lead. Where in the barrel and how much depends on how hard I'm driving them, but I have been completely unsuccessful in getting the stop leading completely. On the other hand, their 12 hardness "cowboy #3" work perfectly.

I asked for advice on many forums and the overall thought is...they're too small in dia for my super redhawk, and too hard. Fixing either of those issues would probably fix the issue...sadly, Missouri doesn't give the option to get them in a larger dia, so I have to go softer, thus the CB #3.

Sadly, I'm mostly just out the $$ I spent on the harder ones...but you live, you learn.

I've used that exact bullet - without the hi tek coating.
Mine were .430" and I coated them with 45-45-10 before I loaded any. They don't lead my revolver and I run them at 1250fps.
If I could have the cylinder throats opened up, I would've tried to order .431" and skip the 45-45-10. But nobody seems to want to touch titanium.

 

[dogdoc]

Had horrible luck with coated bullets in most calibers at higher velocity. Tried many combinations. Poor accuracy(25 yard bench rested not 10 or 15 yard plinking) and much leading/coating residue. MB's, acme and others. Lower velocities under 900 FPS and I got decent results. Keep Velocity low and results will be decent

 

[Nevada Ed]

My first try with coated bullets was a 125gr RN for my C9 3.5" 9mm pistol.

I had .356, ,357 and .358 dia. bullets shipped to me to test.
The .358 dia. did not fit my chamber........

but with several powders and a OAL from 1.06 to 1.16" I got this bullet from 938fps up to 1173fps.

I did not have any leading with this Eggleston coated bullet.

One just needs a good quality coating and a fit that is close to the barrel, for a good load........... maybe?