LEOSA- Retired LEO qaulification

[LEOLT]

Thanks

This is why I do't leave Florida....just kidding , thanks to all you guys for your service. Stay safe!

 

[mse2552]

Need Info

Thanks to RBMAC52 who told me about retired Law Enforcement Officers qualifying in Texas, I want to propose the following to retired out of State (Texas) retired Law Enforcement Officers, especially retired Federal LEO's who have a very difficult time getting qualified under the LEOSA Act 2004, more commonly known as HR 218.

I am a Certified Texas Handgun Instructor and retired Law Enforcement Officer. I am in the Dallas/Ft Worth Metroplex.

I will gladly qualify any retired Law Enforcement Officer, Federal, State or Local type who retired from an out of State Texas Jurisdiction and who now live in Texas.

My fee for you retired guys is a lunch and an hour or so of telling "war stories." can't beat the price can ya?

get in touch with me via this site and Ill provide you with a contact number. Sundays/Mondays are my best known days to get together other times can be arranged. You must be living in Texas but retired from out of State or Federal and meet the guidlines established by HR 218..

Thanks and be safe.

Where are you located in the State of Texas?

 

[mse2552]

JTpur, Could you send me an email with your contact info?

 

[KSDeputy]

I am from TX. A number of years ago I was trying to get my wife to move back with me. I made 3 trips down to the small town in east TX I wished to live in. I checked on everything I could think of, and even found a nice building site. I easily found a retired TX peace officer who would get me qualified. When my wife came down on the last trip, she appeared to like it. When we got back home she didn't want to move. TX people are great, I really miss it, but don't have a chance of returning. There are great people here, too, but I will always miss TX.

 

[rustythread]

Sure am glad somebody resurrected this thread, since it originally was posted years before I joined.
I was an auxiliary officer (what my state calls "reserves") for 20 years, paying for my own training, equipment, and supplies. Same 40-hour basic weapons as required for paid officers, plus the week-long NRA LEO firearms instructor course and several hundred hours of other weapons schools. I'm state-certified as an LEO instructor, and can teach and certify results of the 40-hour course and re-qualifications. But, of course,my former department and the state standards board both take the position that if I did it for free, it don't count. Frankly, not worth a protracted fight--I have a couple of CCLs that cover me everyplace I am likely to travel. I sure hope anybody in a similar situation with reserve / auxiliary service can do better for themselves.

Either way, my hat's off to jtpur in Texas who's doing his bit to help the retired guys.

 

[Muss Muggins]

for you folks living in Texas who are retired LEO's. If you have a Texas CHL that gives you authority to carry in Texas and about 33 other states.

It does not keep you qualifed under LEOSA. That is a yearly qualification. The Texas CHL is valid for 5 years.

The course of fire is the same......ALMOST......the difference is that a LEO must demonstrate "one timed reload." I have yet to find the definition of "timed" as meaning "how long" I looked at TCLOSE standards very clearly and it does not address it either....Not that some specific Texas Law Enforcement agencies might have some standard but as far as I can see does it say what a "timed reload" is for retired people....hope this helps.

"Timed" means timed. Words have meaning. Record how long it took . . .

 

[Groo01]

Groo here
I have one also.
In our state OPOTA [ state teachers] runs things.
Nice thing is many instructors run qualifications for the retired
cutting the lib department heads out of the loop.

 

[Doug M.]

J...

The NRA LEOSA FAQ website states that the revisions doesn't draw a distinction of active duty and reserve LEOs. The revision also lower the retirement requirement from 15+ years to 10+ years.

I am a retired reserve deputy in the gulf coast area. I have 11 years service and left in good standing.

My department says texas law requires 15 years or more and won't let me qualify.
I want to utilize LEOSA and I meet LEOSA requirements, do you know of any remedy for retirees in my predicament to get the firearms qualification?

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How does Texas state law impact the FEDERAL law in question? 18 USC 926(c) requires 10 years, and that controls under the supremacy clause.

 

[grcoffman104]

"Timed" means timed. Words have meaning. Record how long it took . . .

Been running 30 seconds on the timed reload for 20 years and 3 different agencies.
12 rounds.

 

[LenS]

Sure am glad somebody resurrected this thread, since it originally was posted years before I joined.
I was an auxiliary officer (what my state calls "reserves") for 20 years, paying for my own training, equipment, and supplies. Same 40-hour basic weapons as required for paid officers, plus the week-long NRA LEO firearms instructor course and several hundred hours of other weapons schools. I'm state-certified as an LEO instructor, and can teach and certify results of the 40-hour course and re-qualifications. But, of course,my former department and the state standards board both take the position that if I did it for free, it don't count. Frankly, not worth a protracted fight--I have a couple of CCLs that cover me everyplace I am likely to travel. I sure hope anybody in a similar situation with reserve / auxiliary service can do better for themselves.

Either way, my hat's off to jtpur in Texas who's doing his bit to help the retired guys.

I served as a Reserve Officer for 17 years and still serving as a Constable for >16 years (but most police chiefs in MA don't consider Constables as LEOs even though we have statutory arrest powers). My former chief would never have issued me LEOSA credentials, however the current one said that he's open to that discussion. The MA chiefs org was dead set against LEOSA and assisted in creating regulations that violate the federal law (intentionally, I was at that hearing and subsequent meeting). To say that they make it difficult is an understatement. Meanwhile like you, I have licenses from the states that I travel in and due to the "security theater" of TSA have no plans to ever fly anywhere again in my lifetime.

 

[RSanch111]

I served as a Reserve Officer for 17 years and still serving as a Constable for >16 years (but most police chiefs in MA don't consider Constables as LEOs even though we have statutory arrest powers). My former chief would never have issued me LEOSA credentials, however the current one said that he's open to that discussion. The MA chiefs org was dead set against LEOSA and assisted in creating regulations that violate the federal law (intentionally, I was at that hearing and subsequent meeting). To say that they make it difficult is an understatement. Meanwhile like you, I have licenses from the states that I travel in and due to the "security theater" of TSA have no plans to ever fly anywhere again in my lifetime.

Were you issued a photographic identification issued by the agency AFTER you separated from service as a law enforcement officer that indicates that you were employed as a police officer or law enforcement officer?

 

[LenS]

Were you issued a photographic identification issued by the agency AFTER you separated from service as a law enforcement officer that indicates that you were employed as a police officer or law enforcement officer?

No, over those years I worked for 3 chiefs, the last one for 4 years and he never issued us any ID. The last police ID I have was issued sometime in the mid-1980s and that chief retired in 1992.

The current chief, appointed last year is the one who told me that he's open to the idea of issuing me that ID.

 

[jtpur]

I am no longer in Texas nor an instructor any more. I can not qualify any one.