Hello Mike, I was remiss in not saying welcome to the forum. Lots of good information here and glad you are willing to ask questions. There are quite a few archaic terms used by SW collectors and fans so fire away when something is not clear.
Let's see your Victory Models!
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1) I thought the Navy models were generally marked on the top? m1911's has the marking on the side... I haven't seen that before.
2) How much of a premium do the Navy marked ones generally fetch?
2) How much of a premium do the Navy marked ones generally fetch?
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Thanks for the Welcome. I think each set of collectable guns has a certain lingo to describe features etc. I am more a winchester guy and if I said "Well my 94 has the rocky mountain and full buckhorn but it is a flat band and just doesn't look right. I think a SRC would look better with these but really a ladder is what that needs" collectors of 1894 model winchesters would understand but maybe not everyone in the gun trade.
Speaking of that kind of stuff don't you just cringe when a person says " I have a hex barrel rifle"? I usually say I would like to see it as I have never seen one. Still haven't. Mike
Speaking of that kind of stuff don't you just cringe when a person says " I have a hex barrel rifle"? I usually say I would like to see it as I have never seen one. Still haven't. Mike
Mike, as to "Cokes" take a look at this thread.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/104700-coke-grip-info-needed.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/104700-coke-grip-info-needed.html
I read all that information and still don't see it. What I mean by that is the grips don't look like a coke bottle to me. Is it suppossed to be a back view, a side view or maybe just the grips off the frame. Maybe it stands for how the checkered panels are shaped. Anyway I still don't see the "coke". Maybe I don't have a good imaginition. Mike
I think the "coke bottle" reference is when viewing the grips from the rear. These grips flare out in the middle and then taper down toward the bottom of the grip. Like a Coke Bottle, they are slightly fatter in the middle. Standard grips lack the flare in the middle section.
Hope this helps.
Steve
Hope this helps.
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Stay away from impressionist art. LOL When looked at from the back strap they are wider in the middle than slightly above the top and bottom. Similar but less obvious than a coke bottle.
OK to get this back on track. I have a victory v667134. It is engraved under the cylinder latch Bavaria municipal police. It has the US property ghd with flaming bomb lightly in the top strap. .38 S&W cal. Case hammer and trigger and the rest parked. About 85% with smooth grips and lanyard.
Q. Where is Bavaria (I know Germany but not that one)?
What is a rough guestimate to what it could sell for in todays market? Can you tell the DOM from the serial number?
It is a five screw but no coke grips Ha!
Q. Where is Bavaria (I know Germany but not that one)?
What is a rough guestimate to what it could sell for in todays market? Can you tell the DOM from the serial number?
It is a five screw but no coke grips Ha!
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When you open a top-break, the ejector rises automatically as the barrel pivots, so, basically only ONE action is required- opening the gun.
When you open a Hand Ejector, the cylinder simply sits there- no ejection occurs. You have to use your HAND to eject them. They are ejected by hand, not automatically.
ALL pre-war 2 inch 38 M&P's had the straight ejector rod with no knob at the end. They were first built in 1933.
Here's my one & only. It's in .38 special and the gun is all original. The serial number is V153XXX with no military markings except for what's on the butt.
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That in all probability IS Bavaria, Germany. Large numbers of Victory models were issued to German municipal police units to help maintain order right after the war. Markings varied.
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This is kind of a pre-Victory (no V or S in the serial prefix). I recently sold it to a friend, but I am getting it back soon I hope. I liked shooting the old .38 S & W.
OK I thought about that too. There are no additional proof marks from any other country. The engraving is in English and not in German. How or why did the revolver get back to the states after being given to Bavaria? Most likely a European cartridge would be prefered over a 38 S&W. Heck 38 S&W is hard to find here. The revolver is in good shape and doesn't look like it has been carried or fired much. Most police departments pratice a lot and should have worn it a little more than this.
Anyway does this marking enhance, detract or just make interesting the value? Could I get $400 for it? Mike
German cops like autos; they used to like 32ACPs. When they could get autos after the war, they surplussed their Bavarian Municipal Police revolvers. I've seen several of them; wish I could find one for myself.
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Okay, I'm pretty pleased with my new purchase. (I paid $275) I thought I'd better add my photos to this thread. I still haven't had the grip panels examined by an expert, but I'm pretty certain they're ivory. Any comments would be appreciated!
^ Wow!!!!!
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