Light .357 rifle loads

[rather-b-huntin]

I'm shooting my ICORE load in my 77/357 with awesome results.

It consists of a 150 gr. RN cast from wheel weights in a Lee mold, 3.0 gr. Clays, and a CCI small pistol primer in .38 case.

It's leaving the muzzle around 950-1,000 fps and is ridiculous accurate at 25 and 50 yards.

 

[mstuhr]

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Howdy,
Thanks for the data. That's the kind of stuff I'm looking for.
How do you like the Ruger? I spent from Christmas up to about two weeks ago looking for a rolling block in .357. Checked all over on line daily. Went to south Florida and back from St.Louis on the two lanes hitting pawn & gun stores along the way and took in shows of all kinds. Never found one, but was tempted more than once by the Ruger. It looks like a fun gun.
Thanks again for the data.
Mike






QUOTE=rather-b-huntin;137084837]I'm shooting my ICORE load in my 77/357 with awesome results.

It consists of a 150 gr. RN cast from wheel weights in a Lee mold, 3.0 gr. Clays, and a CCI small pistol primer in .38 case.

It's leaving the muzzle around 950-1,000 fps and is ridiculous accurate at 25 and 50 yards.[/QUOTE]

 

[mstuhr]

Thanks

As a note;
the 158 Lwc bullet in a 357 case will be at or near the rifles
lands and groves when it clears the case,for a smoth transfer
and allinement to the cenrter line of the barrel.

Bullets in a short 38 case will have NO SUPPORT when the bullet leaves the case and will have to "Float" to the barrel which could cause accuray problems.

Good shooting.

Hi Ed,
Thanks. My intentions are to to have the bullet engage the lands on the light loads. We will see how it works out.
Thanks and thanks for the data sent.
Mike

 

[rather-b-huntin]

I love the 77/357! I initially bought it for my son to use for deer (he's 9, and a bit intimidated by the .243), but I'm pretty sure it's going to be my truck, atv, camp gun. I'm currently shooting it cheaper than bulk .22 ammo with my ICORE loads too. I installed a Skinner barrel mounted sight on it last week and it's the perfect packing rifle!

 

[CMD-KY]

Howdy CMD,
Was it a accuracy failure or feeding failure or both?
This being a single shot rifle, my plan is to load them as long as I can. There is no need to accommodate any feeding issues.
It's a week or two from being a completed rifle and I'll start in and see what I can come up with.
I was just reminded that we are remodeling around here, but I'll get to it as soon as I can get it all done.
Thanks
Mike

This was a feeding failure.

 

[mstuhr]

Back with skirt failure data

Howdy,
Today was the first day I got to shoot the Contender carbine.
It has it's likes and dislikes.
I'm going to like it.
Anyway,I said I would try to blow a skirt off a 148 grain HBWC. Turns out it is not as hard as I thought.
I have shot thousands of them with 3.5 231. It is one of those loads that shoots in most everything. The 52 will cloverleaf them at 25 along with the PPC /65. The 27 likes them and is not far behind. Never had an issue with them.
Today I ran several loads out of the carbine, when I was out I remembered I had PPC loads with me, 3.5, 231,148 HBWC.
So I shot a group at 25. I shot 5 shots and checked the bore between shots.
The group was Ok but I figured I shot six times by mistake and had a good flyer. (Never registered) I decided to put up a fresh target and try again. First shot looks like this.

Near perfect hole from the nose and a ratty hole from the trailing skirt.
I played a little longer checking the bore between shots and about every third one breaks up out of the carbine. One round didn't even make it on paper at 25.
Just a guess,but I'd bet they start coming apart in the 27 before or around 4 grains.
Thanks again everyone for your help!
Mike

 

[ArchAngelCD]

If you're going to shoot WC bullets from your Carbine I would load DEWC bullets, not HBWC bullets.

I have shot exactly what you're looking for from my Carbine for years. Using .357 Magnum brass I load a 158gr LSWC over 4.0gr W231/HP-38 and that will produce ~900 to 950 fps from your 24" levergun. (w/CCI-500 primer)