Got my pancake for my snubby 19 yesterday. Have it on now, breaking it in. Holds close to the body and tight to the gun. The right holster and belt system make carrying a full sized gun VERY easy. Ray's work is awesome! I just wanted a simple, workable design for my gun, and he delivered in spades. Don't have camera access right now, or I'd post pics, but when things turn around for me a little, I'll be sure to do it. Can't go wrong with Lobo.