m&p 15-22 magazine loader

should the first run be white or black

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nice drawing, much better than i can do freehand!
my original design was much along that line, but quickly got changed for two reasons first being able to adjust it if necessary. although with precise tooling and molding could be accomplished,, but the major reason was the cost of tooling for that kind of design, my first initial cost on the molds were well over 50,000, but using this design was far less expensive,keeping the final price cheaper. but if future sales are strong enough to support design changes i would love to incorporate the nozzle tip! i too feel it would be a much better design but for now i got a small budget to get this thing launched.
thanks for your input its good too see others interested in the design!

I am not a beta tester either but I do have a suggestion that may allow you to keep costs down and still allow it to be disassembled. Instead of having the feed tube one piece what if it was 3 pieces. The two ends, one on the tray and one on the magazine feeder attached permanently allowing a single tube that just has a flare at one end. You could vary the length of the tube as well if desired and preset the permanent ends on the tray and magazine feeder during build so it will not be on the end user to adjust all they would do is connect the ends of the tubes and start feeding. Or at least one permanent end on the magazine feeder. It seems as it would not cost much to do in addition to what you already have. I wish I could draw... Let me know if I totally confused you.
 
I am not a beta tester either but I do have a suggestion that may allow you to keep costs down and still allow it to be disassembled. Instead of having the feed tube one piece what if it was 3 pieces. The two ends, one on the tray and one on the magazine feeder attached permanently allowing a single tube that just has a flare at one end. You could vary the length of the tube as well if desired and preset the permanent ends on the tray and magazine feeder during build so it will not be on the end user to adjust all they would do is connect the ends of the tubes and start feeding. Or at least one permanent end on the magazine feeder. It seems as it would not cost much to do in addition to what you already have. I wish I could draw... Let me know if I totally confused you.

already working on a swedging tool to permanently swedge the mag side in place and the tube will go into the mag part like a fishing rod,, also looking into tooling for a plastic flare for the other end, at least until i can afford to make it all out of plastic. will see how that works out and go from there.
 
already working on a swedging tool to permanently swedge the mag side in place and the tube will go into the mag part like a fishing rod,, also looking into tooling for a plastic flare for the other end, at least until i can afford to make it all out of plastic. will see how that works out and go from there.

What about scuffing the aluminum and then 2 part epoxy in the mag end swedging on plastic may loosen up after a while.
 
hey skunk...i just had a "brain fart"...and you won't need a whole lot of new tooling, or retooling. just make the flared hood part of the bullet tube another piece which can be glued, screwed or clipped to your exisiting magazine holder. this smaller additional part would take the place of the flared end of your current loading tool tube and should remain in place. the final assembly would look very much like my sketch i posted earlier...just a two part assembly now. the bullet tube can then be square cut and inserted normally up to about where it would exit the loader now and starts to flare...i got a sketch but no PDF scanning capabilities here, but will provide the design when i can.
 

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hey skunk...i just had a "brain fart"...and you won't need a whole lot of new tooling, or retooling. just make the flared hood part of the bullet tube another piece which can be glued, screwed or clipped to your exisiting magazine holder. this smaller additional part would take the place of the flared end of your current loading tool tube and should remain in place. the final assembly would look very much like my sketch i posted earlier...just a two part assembly now. the bullet tube can then be square cut and inserted normally up to about where it would exit the loader now and starts to flare...i got a sketch but no PDF scanning capabilities here, but will provide the design when i can.

yea i tryed this with a 30/30 casing but wow are the hard!
plus i can get the tubes cheaper than empty casings.
good thought thou!
 
At the Skunk's suggestion I took a look at a video of a very nice tube-magazine loading system using flexible plastic tubes. This is a fine solution to loading in the field and I think my fiddling with the SkunkWerx loader would be the quick way to load his tubes up before the field trip. I know the Henry company also has a system using clear plastic tubes (several in one larger tube) but I don't believe it has the neatly designed valve system. Both of these loader devices still require the slow and tedious hand-loading of the tube that SW cartridge alignment trough can ease so I'm going to continue my tweaking. I will probably devise a separate feed tube from the 15-22 loader however. Updates to follow...
 
Hey Skunk, finally got my hands on the loader and must say, I'm greatly impressed. Nothing seems to be bent from shipping as I can tell. My baby was due to be born yesterday so I haven't gotten much time to try it out yet, but I'm hoping to squeeze some in today. Great work, thanks for the shirt I love it, and mostly LOVE the MADE IN THE USA!!
 
Hey Skunk, finally got my hands on the loader and must say, I'm greatly impressed. Nothing seems to be bent from shipping as I can tell. My baby was due to be born yesterday so I haven't gotten much time to try it out yet, but I'm hoping to squeeze some in today. Great work, thanks for the shirt I love it, and mostly LOVE the MADE IN THE USA!!

Congratulations, Pappy!!!!
 
Hey Skunk, finally got my hands on the loader and must say, I'm greatly impressed. Nothing seems to be bent from shipping as I can tell. My baby was due to be born yesterday so I haven't gotten much time to try it out yet, but I'm hoping to squeeze some in today. Great work, thanks for the shirt I love it, and mostly LOVE the MADE IN THE USA!!

congrats on the new baby!!!!!!!
:)
 
Shows how jaded (corrupted?) I am, I took "My baby was due to be born yesterday so I haven't gotten much time to try it out yet" to mean he was to pick up his 15-22 yesterday, but hadn't gotten to it yet. :o

Haha. Priceless. Thanks for the congrats guys. Baby hasn't come yet, being stubborn like it's ol man lol. We just been getting everything that was left to do ready because we were out of town this last week.
 
stinkin good loader review

Today, I am going to review the Skunkwirkz(LLC) 15-22 Magazine Loader for the Smith $ Wesson M&P 15-22.

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I will be using 3 different types of magazines.

they are: 1. A stock S&W 25 round magazine
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2. A S&W 10 round modified to hold 25 rounds using raven eye customs load assist tool(Raven Eye Custom - M&P15-22 Upgrades)

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3. A Plinker Tactical 35 round magazine with the Plinker Tactical assist tool.
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First of, this is not the only website that I am doing this review on, so if some information seems unnecessary or extraneous, this would be why. Also, I am testing a beta

unit. This is not the final product. I thank Skunkwirkz for the opportunity to be a beta tester as even in this beta version, this is an awesome product.

I'll start off with the suggestions to Skunkwirkz(LLC) for improvement. He has already read these and is making/has made corrrections for these.

The 1st is the loading tube, it is fragile. I believe he is working with someone more familiar with metals to find a sturdier material.
The 2nd issue is the need for the end user to adjust or tune, which is related to the first issue. of course this is being addressed by the use of different materials for the

loading tube. I will say that mine did not need any tuning.
The 3rd issue would be packaging, but it's too early in the process to nail this down yet



Now to the fun part. I've played with this so much that I could say I have loaded and unloaded more rounds than i actually have on hand.

First, dump(yes literally dump) 25 rounds(or more for the Plinker mag), into the cartridge holder.
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then separate out 12 rounds...notice how the round well gets less deep toward the front of the holder. this causes the cartridge to tip into the loading tube "primer" end

first.
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next, insert your mag into the loader...i am using the modified S&W with the raven eye customs loading tool...this is also where the first adjustment will need to be made.

the end of the loading tube should align with the top of the magazine.
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The next step is to align the loading tube in holder. Skunwirkz has done away with the alignment tab and now suggest trimming the cartridge holder. I have not done this yet.

the reason he has done this upgrade is some beta testers have broken off the tab while trying to adjust the angle. You should have the magazine/tube in a downward angle so

the round slide down the tube.
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the first round will look like this:
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at this point, you will slowly pull down on the load assist buttons allowing the rounds to slowly fall into the magazine. I find it works best if you pull down, allowing 2 or

3 rounds to go in, then allow the spring back and allow the rounds correctly align/stagger.

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do this until the tube is empty and repeat until the magazine is full and again until all of your magazines are full.

now the difference between the magazines.

i prefer doing this using the raven eye customs loading tool. I have this because the S&W magazines that are 10 round long(as long as the 25 rounders, but are pinned to only

hold 10 rounds) do not have load assist buttons. the raven eye buttons are a metal button. this tool is not necessary. the buttons are however.
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the tool installed:
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this tool made this easier than any of my other two options.

the stock S&W mag does not have a hole in the assist button, but extra can be purchased if you have the raven eye customs tool.
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a comparison between the 2 S&W mags...the blue follower is the modified 10 round mag, the orange follower is the stock 25 round magazine...notice the hole in the modified

assist button.
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I will now compare the 35 round Plinker Tactical to the Stock 25 round S&W mag.
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Because the Plinker mag has no load assist buttons, but does have it's own loading tool, the Plinker Tactical tool must be used. when i bought this mag, i had the option, for

the exact same price, of one with out the load assist tool. the last 5 rounds will not go in using the Skunkwirkz(LLC) set up because the Skunkwirkz(LLC) mag holder

interferes with the Plinker tool as seen in these pics.

the Plinker tool, fuly inserted, without the Skunwikz(LLC) mag holder...
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and fully inserted with the Skunkwirkz(LLC) mag holder...
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i think i covered everything...except

This is "ONE STINKIN' GOOD LOADER!"
 
thanks..hope it helps you understand how the plinker mag is different and any adjustments you may be able to make. for me, loading those last 5 rounds by hand is not an issue so i don't really care.

i did post this exact review on a 2 other websites and considering a 3rd as i know there are quite a few people that now own the 15-22 on that site, but not sure how many actually look at site(mossberg, disgruntled former 715t owner such as myself)...
 
Ok so I finally got to play with the new toy. Must say it's everything I thought it'd be. Took a minute to get it down, but after that boy is it slick! I can't really say anything that hasn't already been said. The soft metal took a TINY bit of tweaking, but other than that no complaints. It fits perfect on the mags and my only problem is finding ammo so I don't have to unload the mags without a trigger lol. Again, great job Skunk, I'm thoroughly impressed.
 
Ok so I finally got to play with the new toy. Must say it's everything I thought it'd be. Took a minute to get it down, but after that boy is it slick! I can't really say anything that hasn't already been said. The soft metal took a TINY bit of tweaking, but other than that no complaints. It fits perfect on the mags and my only problem is finding ammo so I don't have to unload the mags without a trigger lol. Again, great job Skunk, I'm thoroughly impressed.

awsome great you like it, be careful its very addicting!
 
i sent out some replacement tubes to a few that had shipping issues and two other beta tester units for review,, i also sent majorlk a modified box and cap with a brass tube assembly, with the tip on the tube so he can evaluate the before and after mod version and give a honest review on both version, so sit tight and lets see what shakes loose!
 

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