M&P 15-22 Performance Center Model

[tacticool22]

Can you provide the link to this mysterious Laney Match Chamber?
Where does it say that you can't use the CCI stingers? They work great in mine.
I still cannot find a performance center model for the M&P 15-22 only the M&P 15 lists a performance center model.
The only difference between the models with the factory flash hider and the ones without a flash hider, is one has a flash hider and the other does not. And the SKU of course.
The MOE has its own Magpul Sights, Stock and Grip.

 

[rsatori]

.22 Long Rifle – Subsonic Hollow point (left). Standard Velocity (center), Hyper-Velocity "Stinger" Hollow point (right). File:.22 LR.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rsatori]

If you go to the bottom of the CCI stinger page, in red it specifically states "Use only in firearms having standard ANSI sporting barrel/chamber dimensions."

CCI Ammunition - Product Detail

I posted a photo link above that shows the difference in their measurements. Laney is just the company that makes this particular type of Match Chamber. I haven't been able to find anything specific about the ones in the M& 15-22's on their site, but you may be able to contact them and ask about it.

here is a link for all of the M&P 15-22 models S&W has available. Note, the only model with the Laney Chamber (Performance Model) is the A1 Style Comp version:

M&P15-22<br>.22 LR - Smith & Wesson

If you are running stingers through this model, then ultimately you are going to be prone to more jams and probably wont do the chamber too good in the long run.

The model with the magpuls stock is this model here: Product: Model M&P15-22 MOE Rifle - Magpul Sights, Stock and Grip

That model has the standard ANSI sporting barrel/chamber dimensions that will accommodate the longer size of the CCI Stingers

 

[rsatori]

PS - Just to be clear: There is no Performance Model. The words "Performance Model" appears stamped on the side of the gun under the chamber. This particular model is listed on their site as the Model M&P15-22 - A1 Style Comp. Read my previous posts on this thread for more info on it.

 

[Jav]

Can you provide the link to this mysterious Laney Match Chamber?
Where does it say that you can't use the CCI stingers? They work great in mine.

In my manual it states that no "stingers" in the performance model, a few times. Say's it's okay for the other 15-22's though.

 

[rsatori]

Upon closer inspection it appears this model also comes equipped with magpuls also: Product: M&P15-22 MOE Flat Dark Earth

 

[tacticool22]

I have been to every page of every 15-22 and the word Performance does not exist on any of them. Nor does the word Laney. There is not even any mention about the chamber.
The stinger has a longer case .7 compared to .6 on standard high velocity loads. The overall length is virtually identical to the dozen different types of ammo I have for modeling purposes or well within tolerances. The diameter of the bullets and cases are within tolerances. The stinger has less bullet sticking out of the case with a slightly shorter primary and secondary seal ring .075 x .025 compared to .1 x .04. Vipers are .1 x .03
In the picture you provided, the round to the far left has almost the same distance from the tip to the sealing ring as the stinger to the far right. Mechanically, they should function the same.

 

[tacticool22]

PS - Just to be clear: There is no Performance Model. The words "Performance Model" appears stamped on the side of the gun under the chamber. This particular model is listed on their site as the Model M&P15-22 - A1 Style Comp. Read my previous posts on this thread for more info on it.

Can you provide a picture? I can't visualize where the stamp is.

 

[tacticool22]

In my manual it states that no "stingers" in the performance model, a few times. Say's it's okay for the other 15-22's though.

Do you have the .22LR adapter? The performance Center models are only listed for 5.56 mm NATO / .223

 

[Jav]

Do you have the .22LR adapter? The performance Center models are only listed for 5.56 mm NATO / .223

A what now? haha. I just have a 15-22 MOE, non-performance model. DVA serial number I believe so the manual could be newer than yours? It just mentions that in there. Oh and the "performance center" stamp is on the right side of the rifle. Underneath the M&P 15-22 part if I remember correctly.

 

[Hobie1]

Talked to S&W customer service just a minute ago and yes there will be a P C version coming out next month with a 18" fluted barrel and a match chamber for $769 retail. I didn't ask about the Stingers but I'll bet it's set up to shoot S V match ammo, spring and tolerance wise.

Keep your eyes out. Anyone want to buy a brand new MOE?

Hobie

 

[rsatori]

From a previous post: There is no Performance Model. The words "Performance Center Model" appears stamped on the side of the gun under the chamber. This particular model is listed on their site as the Model M&P15-22 - A1 Style Comp.

I just purchased this "Performance Center Model" last night for $400.00 Check out my previous posts on this thread for the links.

 

[tacticool22]

Pics of the Performance Center Model please.
Is it stamped in the metal or the polymer? Is it engraved, stamped, molded or melted in?
It sounds from JAV like it is on the outside of the magazine well, on the right hand side, below the M&P 15-22 markings.
Or is it under the chamber, on the breechblock where you have to remove the magazine or open the bolt to see it?

 

[Hobie1]

Bingo!

Well, I for one must confess that I didn't read my new MOE standard grade 15-22's manual as I had just recently bought the pistol. Both are of course mechanically identical except the obvious stuff..length, grips, open sites..etc.

Lo and behold, there's all the info. on the Performance Center gun. But, that gun isn't out for sale into the middle of January, next year. So....I got to ask, do you guys actually have an advance prototype of these models? If you do, why would you be pissed? I'll trade you even up for your PC and my MOE. I actually paid just a little bit more but I'll take one for the team.

Regards,

Hobie

 

[MattO.]

From a previous post: There is no Performance Model. The words "Performance Center Model" appears stamped on the side of the gun under the chamber. This particular model is listed on their site as the Model M&P15-22 - A1 Style Comp.

I just purchased this "Performance Center Model" last night for $400.00 Check out my previous posts on this thread for the links.

How can you have a rifle that doesnt exist yet? Please post pictures of your performance center model. It has a fluted 18" barrel and match chamber? We all would like to see it.

 

[VooDuuChild]

The M&P 15-22 Performance Center Model A.K.A. A1 Style Comp is stamped right under the ejector port (if that's the right word...where the shell flies out). It is equipped with a 22lr Laney Semi-Auto Match Chamber.

My MOE was made a couple months ago in October and all this is listed in the manual. Must be updated manual. And if you got one for $400, I'd imagine that is a SMOKIN deal and we NEED to see a pic of that rifle and the stamp...... And if that guys boss finds out he sold one for so cheap, he's gonna get spanked.

Also, the manual states that failure to use recommended ammo may cause jams, ftf's or even generate enough excessive pressure which can damage, or even rupture your firearm causing injury, death and or property damage.

Don't play with fire kids, there's a reason this warning is in there. And honestly, Stingers are way more pricey than even Mini Mags so that sure wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. But hey, if you'd rather the standard version to shoot Stingers, albeit less accurate, I'm very sure someone will trade you in a heartbeat.

I would love to have one of those with my MOE stuff on it....it'd keep me from getting a 10/22 to play with too as I wanna tack driver to play with also.

 

[VooDuuChild]

How can you have a rifle that doesnt exist yet? Please post pictures of your performance center model. It has a fluted 18" barrel and match chamber? We all would like to see it.

Next month is the 18 inch barrel version for $769 and man is that gonna be sweet. Spendy, but sweet. Talk about a tack driver. The current Performance Center Model has a 16" with A1 Compensator, just like the MOE and standard compensator model and the MSRP on it is $519.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Earlier this year a Forum member posted pics of a 1522-P from some sales advertisement. Several folks posted in reply there was no such thing and it must be a fake because it wasn't listed anywhere on the S&W web site. I don't know anything about a PC 1522, but I do know that S&W web site isn't necessarily current nor are the folks who work at S&W CS. Just sayin.....

 

[Rustpot]

Next month is the 18 inch barrel version for $769 and man is that gonna be sweet. Spendy, but sweet. Talk about a tack driver. The current Performance Center Model has a 16" with A1 Compensator, just like the MOE and standard compensator model and the MSRP on it is $519.

The A-1 Comp version is not a Performance Center model. I don't know why that's been said in this thread several times. It has nothing different from the MOE or non-threaded version, save the muzzle device. The A-1 Comp is purely cosmetic on these guns to make it look more like a normal AR and to give you one more option to attach a suppressor or your favorite AR muzzle device.

The only mention we've seen is that some people's manuals are coming with instructions for the PC model included, and it apparently has an image on the front of a gun with a different stock (VLTOR EMOD?), a bull barrel, the short 10 round magazine, "Performance Center" written on the upper below the ejection port, and IIRC different sights.

 

[tacticool22]

How can you have a rifle that doesnt exist yet? Please post pictures of your performance center model. It has a fluted 18" barrel and match chamber? We all would like to see it.

Yes please. Without pics or documentation, it doesn't exist.
We need pics of this Performance Center rifle you have. Or at least of the page in your owners manual on the Performance Center gun.
And of the page that states Laney Semi-Auto Match Chamber.
Hobie1, rsatori, VooDuuChild
At least with the pistol version, when somebody got one, they posted pictures. Theres not even fotochop ones of the PC model.