M&P 2.0 compact spring issue

[Dpris]

OK, got it in a PM.
Basically a dupe of his post here, but he interacts & posts a couple photos that I can't access without joining that forum.

Says when he took out the recoil spring assembly a piece broke off, and again after shooting.

No details, no explanations, no descriptions of the process, other than a piece broke off when he took out the assembly, twice.

Dunno if it's worth joining to ask questions if he's not going to respond about exactly what he did.
Nobody else asked him there.
Denis

 

[ScaryWoody]

I'm a member there...

 

[Dpris]

Thanks.
Ask him if the pieces fell out when he removed the assembly, or if they broke off WHILE he was doing something to clean the pistol, AFTER he removed the assembly FROM the pistol, please.
Denis

 

[Canyon Man]

When I clean the return spring assembly (RSA) on my 2.0's, I rest one end on the table, grip the spring with a towel, pull the spring down as far as I can, and wipe of the exposed part of the guide rod with a CLP covered patch - turn it over, and repeat the process to the other end. I figure I'm able to clean 90 % of the guide rod like that. It's a little hard to pull the spring down, but it enables me to clean the guide rod better than spraying it down and just wiping it off. I really don't think it's necessary, but it's something I do. I've never attempted it on pistols with dual springs on a guide rod. I've wondered if it's bad for the spring, but I figure it compresses that far every time it cycles a round when firing. I can't seei t damaging the spring. But possibly if someone used a pair of pliers or something - even then tho - I would be more worried about damage to a plastic guide rod than a spring - and the 2.0 guide rods are steel. I would have to guess it's a defective spring the OP has encountered, like something wrong with the integrity of the spring's steel. I can't even recall where, but I've read of springs breaking in half before during use, and a gun still working - can't even remember what kind of firearm - pistol or rifle.

 

[Dpris]

Compressing the spring/springs without forcing them with something like pliers should cause no more stress than when firing, considerably less, in fact.

I'm interested in this because, while it has to be an isolated phenomenon, I have the full-sized 2.0 9mm, the Compact 4-inch 2.0 9mm, and the Compact 3.6-inch 2.0 9mm.

So far, no spring breakage.
If there's something in the gun that breaks a spring, I'd like to know.
If it's something in the cleaning process, then I won't be quite as concerned.
Denis

 

[Dpris]

Finally just registered on that other site & asked him for details.
No response yet.
Denis

 

[seebee62]

I’ve had my 2.0 Compact since February and the Recoil spring is good but mine is color coded blue not yellow as the OP is there any difference in blue or yellow color coding?


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[angryelf22]

When I clean the return spring assembly (RSA) on my 2.0's, I rest one end on the table, grip the spring with a towel, pull the spring down as far as I can, and wipe of the exposed part of the guide rod with a CLP covered patch - turn it over, and repeat the process to the other end. I figure I'm able to clean 90 % of the guide rod like that. It's a little hard to pull the spring down, but it enables me to clean the guide rod better than spraying it down and just wiping it off. I really don't think it's necessary, but it's something I do. I've never attempted it on pistols with dual springs on a guide rod. I've wondered if it's bad for the spring, but I figure it compresses that far every time it cycles a round when firing. I can't seei t damaging the spring. But possibly if someone used a pair of pliers or something - even then tho - I would be more worried about damage to a plastic guide rod than a spring - and the 2.0 guide rods are steel. I would have to guess it's a defective spring the OP has encountered, like something wrong with the integrity of the spring's steel. I can't even recall where, but I've read of springs breaking in half before during use, and a gun still working - can't even remember what kind of firearm - pistol or rifle.

I clean my guide rod every time also but I don’t like to “unnaturally” compress the spring. I take a pipe cleaner, put some CLP on it, and wrap it around the guide rod one time with the pipe cleaner in between the links of the spring. Then I twist the guide rod clockwise til I get to one end, and the counter-clockwise until I get to the other end. Then I move to a clean spot on the pipe cleaner, and repeat. This way i don’t need to compress the spring and it actually does a pretty good job. If it’s really dirty I just repeat until I’m satisfied.

 

[joeintexas]

Actually a good recoil spring is very hardy. I have been cleaning handguns for 50 years and never broke one. I would guess the spring was weakened in the heating process and sent out defective. You would have to be excessively aggressive in cleaning it to break it if it wasn't already defective.

 

[Dpris]

Ronco finally responded on the other site.

The spring pieces did not break off during cleaning, they were discovered on the first disassembly prior to cleaning, and the second disassembly after shooting & before the second cleaning.

Should have worded it "and found a small piece broken off" instead of "and a small piece broke off".
Denis

 

[WebSnyper]

I’ve had my 2.0 Compact since February and the Recoil spring is good but mine is color coded blue not yellow as the OP is there any difference in blue or yellow color coding?


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Mine was blue as well on all 3 of my 2.0 Compacts.

I believe the 1.0's had yellow coloring (at least the 9c I had at one point before I sold it off).

 

[Flintlock1]

I've found that the easiest and most effective way to clean an All Steel RSA is to simply hit it with brake cleaner. There is enough pressure to blow everything away and it evaps instantly and leaves no residue. Done. I've been cleaning my M-60 innards that way way since I bough it new in '83.

 

[Smooth1]

Don’t feed the troll. The obvious thing is to call S&W, get a new spring no big deal. My 2.0 c is a sweet gun.

 

[Chdezjr]

Is there anywhere they can be bought instead of just calling S&W? I like to keep an extra lying around just in case.

 

[jnichols2]

My spring is also blue, and nothing is broken.

Now; about Roncodrummer. He was brand new, and probably a bit stressed out over his gun probably being broken.

Instead of help and encouragement, he was twice accused of breaking the gun himself, he was also called a Troll, so he went elsewhere. His going to another forum was a direct result of the "welcome" he got here.

 

[Dpris]

In my case, I was simply asking for more information to intelligently discuss his problem.
I don't think he was driven elsewhere.
Denis

 

[Songcatcher]

Just found this thread while searching for the issue. When I first field stripped my new M&P 2.0 3.6" the recoil spring lost compression and came off the muzzle end of the guide rod. There was a little bend at the end of the spring, (yellow end) but it wasn't broken. Straightened it back out, but could not get the spring to reconnect to the guide rod end and "lock in". So after several minutes trying, Just placed the end in of yye spring in the hole in the seat at the end of the slide and worked the guide rod in and through and locked it in place to the barrel, while carefully making sure not to let it slip. Fired a couple hundred rnds today with no issue, but not looking forward to disassembly knowing the trouble it will take to get that spring and rod lined up and connected again. I wonder if they just use the same spring from the "4 compact? Cause that thing sure was tough getting on that little guide rod for the 3.6".

This is my first M&P or striker fired pistol for that matter, but i already love it and it will take the place of my Dan Wesson Commander 45 as my edc. Should i just replace whole assembly? Is there something I'm missing? Wil it reliably run it as is?
Thanks

 

[ScottS]

Just found this thread while searching for the issue. When I first field stripped my new M&P 2.0 3.6" the recoil spring lost compression and came off the muzzle end of the guide rod. There was a little bend at the end of the spring, (yellow end) but it wasn't broken. Straightened it back out, but could not get the spring to reconnect to the guide rod end and "lock in". So after several minutes trying, Just placed the end in of yye spring in the hole in the seat at the end of the slide and worked the guide rod in and through and locked it in place to the barrel, while carefully making sure not to let it slip. Fired a couple hundred rnds today with no issue, but not looking forward to disassembly knowing the trouble it will take to get that spring and rod lined up and connected again. I wonder if they just use the same spring from the "4 compact? Cause that thing sure was tough getting on that little guide rod for the 3.6".

This is my first M&P or striker fired pistol for that matter, but i already love it and it will take tge place of my Dan Wesson Commander 45 as my edc. Should i just replace whole assembly? Or run it as is?
Thanks

The problem is covered pretty extensively in this thread.


Personally, I recommend you call S&W and get a new RSA on its way. It takes a while to get shipped, and the problem will continue to get worse (in my experience), and it will be harder to get back into the slide.


But, of course, S&W has never heard of this problem...

 

[Short_Round]

I've heard that different springs are available.

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[Songcatcher]

The problem is covered pretty extensively in this thread.


Personally, I recommend you call S&W and get a new RSA on its way.


But, of course, S&W has never heard of this problem...

Email sent to S&W. Thanks.