I recently purchased a new M&P 45c and I took it to the range today and while I was there I had one failure to feed out of 100 rounds and I didnt think to much about it because it was new and I was using cheap ammo. After I got home I cleaned the gun and I loaded the magazine and thought I would run through all the rounds by pulling the slide back and it wouldn't load the last round, so I was like ok and so I tried it again and the same thing. I tried the other magazine with the same outcome. I was afraid there was something wrong so I rushed back to the range and I put 50 more rounds without a problem, so I thought everything was ok. I got home and tried to run through the rounds by pulling the slide back and again it wouldn't load the last round. I was wondering if anyone has had this problem or if this is common with this firearm? Should I be concern because it shot well?
M&P 45 compact Question
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RB211
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Disassemble the magazines and clean them. While apart, look at the mag springs and make sure they arent bent (the bend will be where the coils change size from small to large).
Since it is new, aside from cleaning it well, you need to load the magazines to capacity and let them sit for about a week. That should help with the feeding issue. If you are still having feed issues, contact S&W.
Rastoff
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I had this problem with my full size 45. The last round hanging up when the slide is not actuated with full force. The problem has multiple causes in my opinion.
First, let me ask a question, when at home, how did you operate the slide? Did you grab it over hand or between your first finger and thumb? Did you let the slide slam home or did you ride it a little?
What I believe is happening is the round is not going up into position properly. It may be hanging on the Extractor a tiny bit. The other bullets in the mag help with lining up the bullet as well as the strong action of the slide.
The fix for me was two fold. I replaced the Extractor and I polished the chamber.
First, let me ask a question, when at home, how did you operate the slide? Did you grab it over hand or between your first finger and thumb? Did you let the slide slam home or did you ride it a little?
What I believe is happening is the round is not going up into position properly. It may be hanging on the Extractor a tiny bit. The other bullets in the mag help with lining up the bullet as well as the strong action of the slide.
The fix for me was two fold. I replaced the Extractor and I polished the chamber.
I used my first finger and thumb. I let it slam but like you said its like it wont align properly. Should I send it in?
Rastoff
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Try this:
Assuming you shoot with your right hand, get a full firing grip with your right hand. Load a mag with only one bullet in it, the last bullet. Insert the mag in the gun.
Now, with your trigger finger off the trigger, on the reference point(along the frame), grasp the slide with an over hand grip using your left hand. Like this: (notice where his trigger finger is)
Push with your right hand and pull with your left hand. Try to rip the slide right off the back of the frame. This motion should have your left hand go to your right shoulder and your right hand push the gun forward a little.
Do this a few times, always with only one bullet. Keep your trigger finger on the frame.
This is as close to actuating the slide with the same force as a bullet as you'll get.
If that last bullet still sticks, then you might have an issue.
Assuming you shoot with your right hand, get a full firing grip with your right hand. Load a mag with only one bullet in it, the last bullet. Insert the mag in the gun.
Now, with your trigger finger off the trigger, on the reference point(along the frame), grasp the slide with an over hand grip using your left hand. Like this: (notice where his trigger finger is)
Push with your right hand and pull with your left hand. Try to rip the slide right off the back of the frame. This motion should have your left hand go to your right shoulder and your right hand push the gun forward a little.
Do this a few times, always with only one bullet. Keep your trigger finger on the frame.
This is as close to actuating the slide with the same force as a bullet as you'll get.
If that last bullet still sticks, then you might have an issue.
Recce
The weapon functions fine while firing? NO malfunctions other than that One failure to feed? which you attribute to cheap ammo correct?
IMO the weapon is fine, If it functions fine during firing thats really all that matters. No need to try to induce a malfunction by manually operating the slide. I wouldnt worry about it
The weapon functions fine while firing? NO malfunctions other than that One failure to feed? which you attribute to cheap ammo correct?
IMO the weapon is fine, If it functions fine during firing thats really all that matters. No need to try to induce a malfunction by manually operating the slide. I wouldnt worry about it
Magnum Mike
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As long as the gun cycles and picked up the last round of the magazine when you fire it, not manually operating the slide, its operating as intended. Now, if you are having problems with the gun cycling when firing, I would send it in.
Make certain that you aren't absorbing the recoil, aka limp wristing, as that will definitely cause feeding problems.
Make certain that you aren't absorbing the recoil, aka limp wristing, as that will definitely cause feeding problems.
Rastoff
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Um, kind of a hybrid. I fixed it myself, but I called S&W and they sent me a new extractor.
So, I replaced the extractor and polished the chamber. Now I can't even get it to hang up if I try where I could before.
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Try this.....
I have read all the responses above and failed to see anyone suggesting the use of snap caps or dud rounds. Someone did mention to make sure to keep your finger off the trigger, but continuing to troubleshoot any problems like this with live ammo is an accident waiting to happen. Please pick up some snap caps or have a friend that reloads do a couple duds for you. Mark them with red paint or indelible markers and have at it. Not being a smart *** here but I have heard so many stories of guys doing this kind of thing and eventually the gun going bang...No need for that experience.....
I have read all the responses above and failed to see anyone suggesting the use of snap caps or dud rounds. Someone did mention to make sure to keep your finger off the trigger, but continuing to troubleshoot any problems like this with live ammo is an accident waiting to happen. Please pick up some snap caps or have a friend that reloads do a couple duds for you. Mark them with red paint or indelible markers and have at it. Not being a smart *** here but I have heard so many stories of guys doing this kind of thing and eventually the gun going bang...No need for that experience.....
Rastoff
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obiwankabaldi,
While snap caps sound like a good idea, they are not the solution. When I had my issue, I could cycle snap caps through my gun with no problems, but had issues with real ammo. So, while they can be used, they are not a solution and may give false indications.
Dummy loads are a bad idea. Yes you can mark them, but marks rub off and then you have the potential to have a dummy when you need a live round or worse a live round when you think its a dummy.
If you have to use snap caps, get the A-Zoom or orange ones.
While snap caps sound like a good idea, they are not the solution. When I had my issue, I could cycle snap caps through my gun with no problems, but had issues with real ammo. So, while they can be used, they are not a solution and may give false indications.
Dummy loads are a bad idea. Yes you can mark them, but marks rub off and then you have the potential to have a dummy when you need a live round or worse a live round when you think its a dummy.
If you have to use snap caps, get the A-Zoom or orange ones.
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Good advice....
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I had the same problem develop with my full size 45 after it had digested around 6k rounds, and only with CCI Lawman 185 grain TMJ. It is probably the magazine springs. Take the mags apart and see if the spring got kinked up or bent. That has been a problems with M&P magazines. I think the current springs have a black or dark paint coating on the upper portion of the coils. Bottom line, if that is the problem, exercise your warranty and get new springs. Life's too short to have a good gun that doesn't shoot. When my pistol developed that problem, I sent it back to S&W with an explaination of the problem. I got it back, having had the recoil spring and others replaced. I also bought new magazines, which I recommed everyone who carries a pistol for defense do every couple of years or so and use the old ones for training. For what its worth, its probably good to replace the recoil spring every 4-5K rounds.
