M&P 9ez slide will not rack

[HomeTown Defense]

Howdy ALL. I have an M&P 9 EZ that has a live round in it and the slide will NOT move at all. I just got it in from manufacturer repairing. Never left my shop, when customer came in he racked it a couple of times, put his loaded mag in and went to rack it. Now it has a live round in it and it will not move, so can't be ejected, to be sent back in.

any suggestions on how to get this to move so I can get the round out would be Appriciated.

I will say S&W has Always did me well and I cant complain, I guess theres always 1 time when things just dont go right.

I can send pictures, but all you will see is an M&P 9 EZ thats it.

 

[s&wchad]

Welcome aboard!

I suspect the cartridge is lodged in the chamber. Any chance it's a reload?

I'd remove the magazine, place a wooden dowel on the front of the slide above the muzzle and smack it with a mallet. Another option is to take it to a range or appropriate place and shoot it.

Once it's cleared, I'd thoroughly clean the chamber and carefully examine the cartridge/fired case.

I don't own a shop, but if I did I would NEVER allow someone to chamber a live round in my building.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

The ammo id Hornady that is always used, and not a reload (i dont use reloads). I finally got the round out by doing what you said, but that was the only way to do it, I've had to do this for other people in the past, I was only wondering if someone knew a better way that I didn't know.
The weapon had just gotten back from S&W from getting repaired, and was ready to go, (S&W have NEVER LET ME DOWN). I'll send it back for them to take another look.
As for allowing someone to load a firearm in my store? Well, I figure it like this, it's a gun shop, I have 26 cameras, and im a pretty good judge of who is in my shop. I don't mind if people carry in my shop (loaded or not), it's a gun shop and we'll most people come in carrying. To load a firearm in my shop, we'll i dont expect anyone to take a firearm that just came back from repairs to not try it before they leave, for this reason. It would be a shame to make them leave to find that the problem still persisted as this did.
I'm Not trying to be rude but if your so afraid to be around loaded firearms you maybe shouldn't have one. Again I'm NOT trying to be rude, just stating the facts. When someone comes in and purchases a new firearm to carry, I go through the book with them so they know what they have and know how to do things safely.
I don't just take there money and tell them to get out, I want them to know how to handle it safely. I believe it is going a step further, and my customers keep coming back and they are Loyal because of it. If I believe a person doesn't have the proper knowledge or experience for a rifle they want to buy I stear them away from it and show them something more to there capabilities.
I'm never going to be rich because of firearms, so I like to educate people on the things they purchase from me.
I do custom builds for active duty military as well as LEO's, and everyone else. I feel it is my place to make sure they know what they are doing with there purchase, it's safer and they know the basics before they leave. Doing this I never have to worry about them coming back with broken parts because they didn't know how to install it or operate it.
These are firearms, SAFETY in the name of the game. Spread a bit of knowledge around and they feel better, and i feel better. You would not believe how many people do things Wrong because no one taught them the correct way to do things.
This is how my shop is ran! It probably isn't the right way, but since it is mine and my customers appreciate it, I will continue to do it. I have Never had a customer say they didn't want to know! Not a single time. This way we both learn. Most of my customers (if I'm busy) will spread the knowledge around as well, it's Trust and safety in Knowledge.

Thank you for your reply! I knew this was how to fix it but even if you know the answer, there may be another way, by asking everyone around learns.

 

[murphydog]

I doubt the Chief Moderator of this Forum, an experienced S & W, firearms and edged "tool" guy is "afraid to be around loaded weapons". Just saying.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

OK, I guess the best thing for me to do is to concede.
I appreciate and respect his opinion l, it just shows that we have a difference in opinion. To be honest I do not and will Not change my stance because of who a person is or what there job title is!
I believe i said I Appreciate his opinion? As I also said S&W is a Great firearm, the company it's self has never done me Wrong!
I wasn't understanding that we vote on what people say? I do stand with the Fact of Everything I said. If people are afraid to be around firearms while or when there loaded, then maybe they shouldn't have one, and most assuredly shouldn't own a gun shop. In Kansas and even in Missouri, most people that go into gun shops are carrying. Kansas you don't need a permit (CCW) TO CARRY and in Missouri you do.
When a person brings me a firearm for repair or that is sent off for repair, do they Not have the right to make sure the problem is fixed?
I'm Not going to go against someone's 2nd Amendment right to carry in my shop, although there are rules. We dont go around like a bunch of cowboys. Every place has rules, but going against the 2nd Amendment isn't a rule I will go against. Lol, that's what most of US Citizens are fighting for!.
Thank you for your opinion. I always like constructive criticism on anything it's do.
Not that it matters but I have 26 cameras in and around my shop (most cant be seen) and everyone knows it. If they choose to do a bad thing it's all good, there on camera and my local LEO's know how to get to the recordings. I am also a 3rd generation Marine and if that's the way it's gonna play out, it's a good day!

 

[LVSteve]

So did you do a plunk test with the preferred ammo with the barrel removed? I'm wondering if you are looking at an EZ9 with a EZ380 barrel in it, or at least a short chambered 9mm barrel.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

Funny you asked that. I'm not sure what the plunk test is, but once I got the round out I did take the barrel out and put a 9 mm round in it. It was fine.
It seems to be doing fine now. I may still get a return label and send it back in and let them figure it out.
I have to say this, this isn't the first time I have sent something in and they have never done me wrong. They replaced a long list of things, more then I asked. S&W is one of the finest manufacturers i have delt with. When you send something in to be checked or repaired it comes back as if it were a Brand New weapon. I'm not a stocking dealer but I'm sure I have more then enough S&W's that I could be.
It doesn't matter that I'm on the S&W forum or not. There is Not a single thing that I can say bad about them as a company (unlike a few others), they take care of there customers. When you purchase a firearm from S&W they take care of it forever. If I didn't like there weapons or there service, I would say so, the most they can do is kick me off. I say what I feel, there firearms are well made and they take care of you like your a stock holder!

 

[Execpro]

Welcome to the forum !
When we had our quarterly pistol check (looking at pistol function, proper maintenance etc.) there was a bullet trap provided for cycling the pistol to safely eject the live round in the chamber.
Don't know if you could use one. Just a thought.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

I would love to get one. Can I get one from one of my distributors, or do I need to get one from S&W? I'm always interested in anything that makes things Safer!
Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into it further, as well as wait for your reply.
I will say you S&W people are the Bomb (don't blow up on us/me), you have Never let me down!

 

[AlHunt]

I'd remove the magazine, place a wooden dowel on the front of the slide above the muzzle and smack it with a mallet. Another option is to take it to a range or appropriate place and shoot it.

I had this once and remembered seeing the suggestion to put the top of the muzzle against a wooden bench or something similar. Then push or even smack the grip forward. I liked that better than working around the business end. A little pressure worked for me.

My situation wasn't fully in battery so shooting it out wasn't an option.

Yep, a reload. 250 grain powder coated bullet in a 1911. About 1 in 20 would smack into the rifiling. Lube instead of PC solved the issue.

A bullet trap would be an excellent thing in a non-rural gun store. In my neck of the woods, the Great Outdoors, most of them just step out back and shoot something.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

I'm going to look i to a bullet trap. What's one more tol if it works! Lol
Thank you for your answer. I don't like working with a hammer down the business end myself, that was the only way (I knew how to do it) to get it out, and it works generally just by dropping a steal rod (rubber coated by me) down the barrel. I haven't ever had to hit it with a hammer or mallet. I can always find easier ways to blow my head off, LOL.
Again Thanks

 

[Photog]

I had this once and remembered seeing the suggestion to put the top of the muzzle against a wooden bench or something similar. Then push or even smack the grip forward. I liked that better than working around the business end. A little pressure worked for me.

My situation wasn't fully in battery so shooting it out wasn't an option.

Yep, a reload. 250 grain powder coated bullet in a 1911. About 1 in 20 would smack into the rifiling. Lube instead of PC solved the issue.

A bullet trap would be an excellent thing in a non-rural gun store. In my neck of the woods, the Great Outdoors, most of them just step out back and shoot something.

I worked in a gunshop in Santa Fe, NM for several years. Our "bullet trap" was a oak stump that weighed about 250 pounds. It stopped anything we could shoot into it. We went to the ranch where the guy had it to see if it would work. We shot everything we could think of into it, including .458 500gr. solids, and several rounds of 30-06 black tip armor piercing rounds. None went more than about a third of the way into it. It was about two and a half feet in diameter and about thirty inches tall. We always shot it from the side. Our gunsmith loved it for testing firearms and we could put it on a dolly and move it easily. The shop was right in the middle of the city, so saved a lot of time having to drive to a range to test guns. I know this is now considered politically incorrect, dangerous, not a good idea, "Oh my goodness! What do you think you are doing!?!?!?", but it worked until the shop closed.

 

[GypsmJim]

Last Winter I had the same thing happen with a Glock 19x. I was at my club's indoor range so I didn't want to chance an uncontrolled discharge. If it had been Summer I would have taken it my own personal outdoor range, but no such luck in the snow.

A guy at the club suggested a particular LGS that had a gunsmith. I called first and he said come in. I had it in a case. He took the whole package into the back room and came back in about a minute with the slide open, the half filled mag and the single round. 65 bucks....OMG.

I asked him how he did it and he showed my on the empty gun. Wrapped a rug around the frame and banged it backwards against a wooden block, while holding the slide with his other hand and pointing it at a bullet trap.

He said my reloads were bad (I ONLY shoot reloads) and / or my barrel was dirty......BS.

A thorough inspection of the barrel showed it to be perfect, and a plunk test of the 600 rounds I had in inventory showed that ONE SINGLE round had a bulge. Funny though, the "faulty" round plunked just fine in my Model 39-2, and 2 Ruger nines.

Anywhoot, I learned the technique of an inertial bump.

 

[jaguargolf]

I had this happen a couple of times with a Springfield Armory Range Officer Elite Operator 1911 10mm. It usually happened at my shooting area in the woods. Sometimes I could get it to fire, sometimes it was just jammed shut. Having a wooden picnic table available to push against helped.

Eventually brought it to my gunsmith.

The breech was too short so he had to cut it longer.

No problems since then

Good Luck

 

[rwsmith]

First and second try.....

Keep it pointed in a safe direction at ALL TIMES!!!

First try: hold the slide firmly in your left hand. HIT the grip stock with the 'V' of the thumb and fingers of your right hand. This often helps with hinky reloads.

If that fails, I put the body of the pistol in a vise and with a curved piece of wood (I use a wire brush handle) put it on the slide, but not on the barrel and tap it with a mallet.

On some early Kel Tec and S&W Shields, when reassembling, the spring somehow 'jumped the track' and when I called both places I was told to send it back to them. I did and they fixed them.

 

[HomeTown Defense]

Thank You for your reply! Even though I have removed the round I/ We continue to get answers. This is actually great, because it gives another way for readers to try.

 

[Execpro]

About the bullet trap.
You can Google it, but I would contact you local Police, Sheriff and/or State Police and see what they have first.
The one we had was in the office and I don't remember if it was a table or floor model, but we were only dealing with handguns.
For your shop, you would want one for handguns, rifles and shotguns.
I saw one on line that would handle a 50 cal BMG rifle.

 

[Gman556]

The ammo id Hornady that is always used, and not a reload (i dont use reloads). I finally got the round out by doing what you said, but that was the only way to do it, I've had to do this for other people in the past, I was only wondering if someone knew a better way that I didn't know.
The weapon had just gotten back from S&W from getting repaired, and was ready to go, (S&W have NEVER LET ME DOWN). I'll send it back for them to take another look.
As for allowing someone to load a firearm in my store? Well, I figure it like this, it's a gun shop, I have 26 cameras, and im a pretty good judge of who is in my shop. I don't mind if people carry in my shop (loaded or not), it's a gun shop and we'll most people come in carrying. To load a firearm in my shop, we'll i dont expect anyone to take a firearm that just came back from repairs to not try it before they leave, for this reason. It would be a shame to make them leave to find that the problem still persisted as this did.
I'm Not trying to be rude but if your so afraid to be around loaded firearms you maybe shouldn't have one. Again I'm NOT trying to be rude, just stating the facts. When someone comes in and purchases a new firearm to carry, I go through the book with them so they know what they have and know how to do things safely.
I don't just take there money and tell them to get out, I want them to know how to handle it safely. I believe it is going a step further, and my customers keep coming back and they are Loyal because of it. If I believe a person doesn't have the proper knowledge or experience for a rifle they want to buy I stear them away from it and show them something more to there capabilities.
I'm never going to be rich because of firearms, so I like to educate people on the things they purchase from me.
I do custom builds for active duty military as well as LEO's, and everyone else. I feel it is my place to make sure they know what they are doing with there purchase, it's safer and they know the basics before they leave. Doing this I never have to worry about them coming back with broken parts because they didn't know how to install it or operate it.
These are firearms, SAFETY in the name of the game. Spread a bit of knowledge around and they feel better, and i feel better. You would not believe how many people do things Wrong because no one taught them the correct way to do things.
This is how my shop is ran! It probably isn't the right way, but since it is mine and my customers appreciate it, I will continue to do it. I have Never had a customer say they didn't want to know! Not a single time. This way we both learn. Most of my customers (if I'm busy) will spread the knowledge around as well, it's Trust and safety in Knowledge.

Thank you for your reply! I knew this was how to fix it but even if you know the answer, there may be another way, by asking everyone around learns.

I can remember when I bought my first couple pistols, and the shop owner thoroughly went over them with me. I dug that, and always went to that one until they closed.

I never see this anymore, so my hat goes off to you sir!!

 

[HomeTown Defense]

Thank you, I figure it should be every shop owner to educate buyers of what they are buying. Someone needs to be responsible other then the manufacturer. It seems it's All about the money and if you blow your foot off due to lack of knowledge that's the fault of the new owner. I'm never going to be rich especially with firearms, but if I can educate buyers on there purchase, maybe I can stop just 1 person from any mishap that could harm them or someone else. Most appropriate it, I've never had anyone that hasn't. I've actually talked people out of a stupid purchase ( a purchase of a firearm way above there knowledge level). They generally still purchase something, then come back and tell me how much they appropriate it. My wife says just sell it. Lol

 

[STORMINORMAN]

A gun shop might wish to have a selection of snap caps available for quick (and SAFE!) action checks...

Just a suggestion.

Cheers!

 

[rwsmith]

I'm late to this party, but I have a method I use before making with the vise, curved stick of wood (my wire brush handle works well) and the mallet. I point the gun in a safe direction, hold the slide in your left hand with the most secure grip you can give it and press your left forearm against your stomach. Don't worry about covering the port because the first thing is to break the slide loose. Make a 'U' out of the thumb and fingers of your right hand and hold it back about a foot to a foot and a half behind the gun. Whack the grip right on the beavertail with the 'U' of your right hand. Variation is to move the gun back while your hit it with the right hand moving forward. Do it over a table and be careful not to drop it. This works for a great many cases. If it doesn't head for the workshop and vise