M&P or Glock

[dennis40x]

I have both Glock and S&W. Think of the M&P as a 3rd generation polymer frame pistol from S&W. My experience is more with Glock than the M&P so therefore my comfort level tends to favor Glock. There have been issues with both Glock and S&W. There is a forum devoted exclusively to the M&P.

In my limited experience it’s either or situation one in essence being no better than the other. Both have positive aspects and negatives.

The target is a composite group of both pistols accuracy potential (9x19mm) from the standing position @ 50Yds.

 

[Ky Bob]

The target is a composite group of both pistols accuracy potential (9x19mm) from the standing position @ 50Yds.

This was at 50 yards!! Thats some good shooting. A lot better than I could do!

 

[dennis40x]

This was at 50 yards!! Thats some good shooting. A lot better than I could do!

There are good days, not so good days, and really bad days. This was a good day. Vanity allows me not to post pictures of the bad days.

 

[Titegroups]

Own both, like the glock trigger better. The Smith feels better in my hand but I shoot the glock better. Ask the guy to go to the range with you and shoot them side by side, don't make a trade on a bunch of other peoples opinions. Always shoot a gun before you make a decision if possible, and not just one clip.

 

[pawncop]

Good advice from all concerned. I carry the full size M&P in 45 ACP as my duty sidearm, and carry a Glock 32 (357 Sig) same frame as the 23 even have the 40 caliber barrel, as my primary off duty sidearm.

I love the M&P, but am deadly accurate with the Model 32.

Get them both.

 

[rremt_p]

Bowie tactical can remove the beavertail, customize the trigger, put night sights on it, and just about any other mods you can think of.

The M&P is very easy to work on, the trigger can be modified with a do it yourself install of the apex tactical sear, there are some other premium parts from speed shooters, and apex tactical is working on others as well. These are drop ins for the most part.

You can also try Burwell Gunsmithing, and Accurate Iron.

Best thing to do is try them both, everyone I know that grew up on a more traditional automatic ( 1911, Hi Power ) likes the feel of the M&P. some still like Glocks better though ( I hear its an aquired taste )

The beavertail really isn't a big deal, its there to prevent slide bite. Not a big issue with a proper grip, but you never know how your going to react once the adrenalin starts flowing.

BTW the compacts don't have beavertails.

 

[Newbomb]

I think I'm going to get the M&P40. I've owned 3 glocks and never end up keeping them, probably for a reason. I'd like to do IDPA too.

 

[Super Trucker]

Where did you get that discount?

I won't speak for him, but buds gun shop has a seperate site for LEO (you should qualify as an EMT).
Gun for Sale - Discounts for Qualified Customers

A quick look shows a M&P 40 with fixed sites delivered for $419.00 (you then need to add your FFL transfer fee)
S&W M&P40 40S&W Fixed Sights 4 1/4" NMS for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $419.00

NMS = No Magazine Safety

M&P 40 with night sites for $509.00 delivered.
S&W M&P9 9MM 4 1/4" Night Sights NMS for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $509.50
I am almost positive that the LEO guns come with 3 mags as well.

There are probably other places that give deals, but this one is all I know about.

 

[Knightrider03m]

Where did you get that discount?

I got it from a normal dealer. However, not all dealers have the LE program so you have to call around in your area.

 

[mlk18]

you then need to add your FFL transfer fee

You don't need to transfer to an FFL if you have signed agency letterhead approving the purchase (for LEO use). They will ship it direct to the department for an agency purchase or individual officer purchase. Another good LEO distributor is OMB Express Guns.

S&W M&P Pistols - Express Police Supply "OMB" Smith & Wesson M&P Military and Police - Express Guns

 

[ab4ka]

I've had Glock's, XD's and M&P's, and the M&P is by far my favorite. It just feels so much better in my hand than the others did. I was a huge Glock fan, and one great thing about them is that they are easy to work on and play with, but for actual shooting the M&P just works better for me. To be honest I liked the XD better than the Glock. It really felt good to me. If for some reason I couldn't have an M&P I'd get another XD in a heartbeat.

 

[wood1]

You don't need to transfer to an FFL if you have signed agency letterhead approving the purchase (for LEO use). They will ship it direct to the department for an agency purchase or individual officer purchase. Another good LEO distributor is OMB Express Guns.

S&W M&P Pistols - Express Police Supply "OMB" Smith & Wesson M&P Military and Police - Express Guns

Thanks for the plug! Actually the updated version of this link is here

Express Police Supply > Pistols > Officer Purchase > Firearms *ExpressGuns*

We have actually added our guns to real-time orderable website.

 

[Backon4]

To me it was all about feel. Every glock when I shoot it I have to remember nose down. It's not a natural feeling point and shoot weapon. However the M&P is an excellent point and shoot weapon. The grip angle is perfect and you know when you raise the weapon it is ready to fire. To me that's very important. In that one instance you might have to get a shot off, aim is going to be almost an afterthought so being able to just point and shoot.

 

[kokopelli]

I think you will find the M&P feel versus a 23 is like comparing apples and oranges. It is a personal thing. Try it and compare.
All the Glocks are just that: Glocks. They are different, not better or worse, just different.
It is difficult for me to switch from Glock to any other brand and back again, and still shoot consistently.
Just my $.02 worth.

Sums it up for me, too. The problem I have is i shoot my 1911's and S&W 3rd gens a lot...then go shoot my Blocks when i have too, and it's a re-learning process! -I'm not a block fan, btw...

 

[rpg0123]

I have never been too thrilled with the Glock 23 grip. The only thing that ever helped with me was a hogue rubber slip on, which made all the difference in the world. Still, while the Glock grip is fine and it works, it doesn't feel as natural as some more modern designs out there from other brands.

 

[32sgteot]

I would/could not rest as well at night w/o my Glocks. The combination of no locks/safety's and knowing it will fire overcome any learning obstacle with regards to POA. Simple, you point and pull the trigger on any Glock, and a round will fire from the end of the barrel. No safeties, no eject problems, no bluing issues, no rust, no pitting, no soft hammer strikes, just decide a bullet needs to fired and pull the trigger.

 

[Anton Chigurh]

Had a little tribe of Glocks for a while, and shot them all pretty well, with a two hand hold, but all of them were too large of a circumference to hold and shoot well with one hand. The angle never bothered me, just the inability to get enough fist around the grip. And I am not talking about the G21 or 20 or 30..........those hogs are the size of a Campbell's soup can.
The M&P is a much more slim and rounded grip. It feels so much better, and if I ever have to deal with something one-handed, I feel I can do it with an M&P. Even the .45, which is arguably smaller in circumference than the G17 and its ilk. Having a metal and plastic magazine , while they are well made and sturdy, adds extra milimeters that have to be added to the grip dimensions.
The Glock trigger is a little cleaner, seems to me, although it sits strangely in the guard, and has almost no curve.
The M&P trigger does slick out nicely with use, and is plenty good enough, and it has the additional nice feature of being nicely curved and comfortable to manipulate.
Anyone with a $25 grinding wheel, a few files , sandpaper and emory cloth can get rid of the silly looking beavertale, which would serve its purpose at 1/3 its size. I have done so, and may take a picture or two and post them, if anyone cares to see.
Now I have a little tribe of M&Ps............trading during those $50 rebate times, such as now, takes some of the sting away.
I think Glock is a fine weapon, maybe the benchmark for "goes bang every time", but unless they do more than reduce the front-to-back dimension of the grip, which makes it even more blocky, I'll hang on to the M&Ps.
Literally.

 

[samurai]

I also wanted to get away from the 40. I sold my Glock 21 and got a great deal on a M&P45fs. I liked the way it felt so much , I picked up a M&P 9fs and got rid of my 23. The final deal was swapping a 27 for a M&P 9c. I'm very happy with the change and my targets prove it ( even made better with the Apex sears)

 

[josh8042]

I recently sold my glock 26 and got a M&P 9c instead. I decided to make the switch mainly because of the longer sight radius and lower bore axis. It's my understanding that the 2 combined result in faster follow-up target aquisition. One thing that I hadn't considered before making the switch was that the rear sight on the M&P is metal and somewhat sharp. So having it rub against my side can sometimes be a bit uncomfortable for me after a long day of carrying in the waistband. Eventually I'll have to get a holster that protects my body from making contact with any part of the metal, but for now it is not really a big enough issue to spend a great deal of money on another new holster.

 

[Zerteck]

I have a M&P9c and a M&P.40c but I shot a M&P.40 full size and I must say I was impressed it shot better than my Glock 23 more accurate and no snap to it.