M&P Shield bleeding on my holster?

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I took my M&P Shield hiking a couple weeks ago, and started to sweat. I didnt know that the M&P Shield would transfer all of its finish to my Theis leather holster.. Is this normal? Can i do anything to stop this? i've attached 5 pics..
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It's hard to believe the finish came off the gun!

Did you buy the gun new? Or was it used and previously sprayed with some stove black paint? :confused:


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I bought the gun brand new, and the holster is raw horse hide, nothing was put on that either..
Should i send it back to S&W?
 
Definitely not the norm. I did a polish job on the barrel and the levers, it took quite a bit of effort to remove the finish. I don't know much about the reaction with your holster, but I know horse hide is fairly common. I can recommend a holster that is made to stand up to sweat. I just took mine off after 23 hours straight work, sweating the entire time. The Nate squared holster has a layer of neoprene inside of a layer of suede and then tanned leather. The neoprene is water proof and will not transfer the sweat. I know that won't help right now, just some info for the future. I would definitely recommend contacting S&W, as I said the finish was hard to get off when I was intentionally trying to remove it.
 
Looking at your pics again I wonder if that is not some of the holster rubbed of on the gun. Obviously there is black on the holster, but I wonder if a little CLP or a mild metal polish would help the gun.
 
How long was your pistol in the holster?

I don't know that holster maker.

I flunked chemistry once, but wonder if the stuff used to tan the leather interacting with sweat (and less than wonderful S & W finish) did it.

Can't hurt to call S&W and the holster guy. Worst thing that happens is they point their fingers at each other. Or claim you left the gun in a damp holster

The good news is that the damage doesn't look like it would hurt function of the pistol. I wouldn't be anxious to use the holster without more info.
 
I have had 3 Theis holsters for 3 different guns. All are horse hide, and one is going on 2.5 years old. Never had that happen on any of the guns I have carried in them. Some folks have more acidic sweat than others, could be your case.
 
Looking at your pics again I wonder if that is not some of the holster rubbed of on the gun. Obviously there is black on the holster, but I wonder if a little CLP or a mild metal polish would help the gun.

I've used everything i have to try and "clean" the gun, but its really has transferred the finish from the slide/locks to the holster. It was about 110 out (i live in Vegas) and i was hiking for about 3-4 hours, the holster was pretty wet by the end of the hike. So i took it off to dry a bit while we waited for others to catch up, and that's when i noticed what had happened and snapped some of the pics.

I've contacted Tommy (Theis holster maker), and he reassured me that his holster has had nothing added to it, and pointed @ S&W, whats why i started this thread.. to see if anyone else has had an issue like me before i contact them.
 
here are some more pics
 

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Can I ask what you used to clean/oil your gun before you went on your walk?

Also, did you use any cleaner/conditioner on the leather holster?

Just trying to look for some possible causes.
 
Isn't the entire point of a horsehide holster the fact that horsehide is sweatproof? Am I missing something?
Was the sweat dripping or flowing down over the holster, or seeping through the leather?
 
it is more sweat resistant. The pores of horsehide are smaller and prevent sweat penetration more than cowhide. I believe feel free to correct me.
 
I bought the gun brand new, and the holster is raw horse hide, nothing was put on that either..
Should i send it back to S&W?

If ultimately this proves to be an issue with the pistol's coating, please tell us your test fire date for reference.
 
I have no idea if the treating process at S&W could have gone wrong. Remember all the Chevy trucks that had paint peeling off in sheets in the 80's? Something went wrong in the painting process. Of course they denied it. :p

On another thought: You may want to bottle your sweat and sell it as a finish remover. That finish is really tough and it seems whatever it is you have going on is working to beat it. :D

If it were my gun, I'd send it back to S&W, or at least start by sending them these pictures. ;)

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It had seeped through the leather. I was carrying at the 5oclock position.

I have much larger pics of these that i will send to S&W and see what they have to say.

Isn't the entire point of a horsehide holster the fact that horsehide is sweatproof? Am I missing something?
Was the sweat dripping or flowing down over the holster, or seeping through the leather?
 
I do a lot of leather work and it looks like the horsehide was chrome tanned. Chrome tanning will react with the metal finish and cause issues like that. Its hard to think that the takedown lever, the safety lever and the slide are all a result of defective finish.

I could be wrong but Id look at a cut of the leather. make a small cut somewhere and look at the inside of the cut. Chrome tanned leather is not natural colored like veg-tanned leather is. Chrome tanned is silver or dark colored in the middle.
 
I have no idea if the treating process at S&W could have gone wrong. Remember all the Chevy trucks that had paint peeling off in sheets in the 80's? Something went wrong in the painting process. Of course they denied it. :p

That was usually some idiot plant manager "dialing back" the paint volume on the color coat to cut costs. And it wasn't just the trucks.

If the color coat wasn't thick enough, enough UV from the sun got through to the primer coat, which would start to break down.

We'd spend a lot of time making sure the coverage and thickness was where it had to be for each color, only to have know-nothing fools change the settings after we left, because the thinner coat "looked" like it was good enough. :mad:

Yes, there were occasionally contamination problems, but the most common problem was what I just detailed.
 
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