M&P shield owners, check it out
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Bought two to try out. I put one in an 8 round mag and using an UpLuLa (had to ) got 9 rounds to fit. Had to slap the mag VERY hard to get it to fit with the slide closed. The 7 round mag is still a 7 round mag, no way you'll get an 8th round in, I use an Pearse grip extension so maybe that is what prevents an 8th round. Will take them to the range this weekend but so far not impressed. 
falconman515
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Well that's a bummer ... I will only be running the 7 rounder when I carry in my shield with the Pierce extension plate and would like to add one more round if possible.
Bummer.
Bummer.
If you can't EASILY get 8 rounds into the regular mag and 9 into the extended mag, something didn't go together right. Of course you wouldn't be impressed (yet). I'd suggest taking them apart and redoing them from scratch, until they do both accept 1 extra round and seat into the pistol with a simple push.Bought two to try out. I put one in an 8 round mag and using an UpLuLa (had to ) got 9 rounds to fit. Had to slap the mag VERY hard to get it to fit with the slide closed. The 7 round mag is still a 7 round mag, no way you'll get an 8th round in, I use an Pearse grip extension so maybe that is what prevents an 8th round. Will take them to the range this weekend but so far not impressed.
Check out the entire thread on mp-pistols forum I referenced on page 1 of this thread and you'll see that others have had the same problem and how they had to redo it. They may be a pain to get inserted properly, but once they do, you'll like 'em.
Grey.Ghost
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No issues here. I'm up to 182 rounds in each of my standard length mags with the new guts. No problems loading the last round, no feed issues, and very, very pleased. They have now transitioned to full time carry mags
falconman515
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I think for Concealed Carry I'm gonna pass
I need realiability more then an extra round if the time ever comes.
I did buy and extra 7 round mag so I think I wil use that mag when I carry and then maybe buy this kit for the 7 and 8 round mag that came with my Shield so I can have an extra round when shooting at the range.
If I ever buy these and try them I will be sure to come back and leave my thoughts.
Thanks
I need realiability more then an extra round if the time ever comes.
I did buy and extra 7 round mag so I think I wil use that mag when I carry and then maybe buy this kit for the 7 and 8 round mag that came with my Shield so I can have an extra round when shooting at the range.
If I ever buy these and try them I will be sure to come back and leave my thoughts.
Thanks
@Falconman515...
Do get one for your range mag and thoroughly run it. When/if it proves reliable, THEN consider using it for carry. That's what I did... I didn't start off considering it for carry.
I just wanted something that would:
@oadad2015...
I just bought 3 more, for a total of 5 mags and 2 of these three sets did as yours did. I was just barely able to get the 8th round into the modified 7 round mag. I took them apart, checked spring orientation, reassembled... One mag, I needed to play with twice... and they now load properly AND seat easily. So don't give up on the spring kits yet.
Rest assured, that these last three setups will only be used as range mags, until they have proven themselves, just as I did with the first 2 mags. Once they've proven themselves, I'll move them into the carry rotation.
** Do not Blindly trust any new Carry Pistol, Trigger Kit install, or Spring modification, until thoroughly tested by you. **
Do get one for your range mag and thoroughly run it. When/if it proves reliable, THEN consider using it for carry. That's what I did... I didn't start off considering it for carry.
I just wanted something that would:
- Make my range mags easier to load (without needing to have my UpLULA) and
- Make it easier to seat the mags into the mag well (without needing to slam it home)
@oadad2015...
I just bought 3 more, for a total of 5 mags and 2 of these three sets did as yours did. I was just barely able to get the 8th round into the modified 7 round mag. I took them apart, checked spring orientation, reassembled... One mag, I needed to play with twice... and they now load properly AND seat easily. So don't give up on the spring kits yet.
Rest assured, that these last three setups will only be used as range mags, until they have proven themselves, just as I did with the first 2 mags. Once they've proven themselves, I'll move them into the carry rotation.
** Do not Blindly trust any new Carry Pistol, Trigger Kit install, or Spring modification, until thoroughly tested by you. **
I really agree with this...Were this to be a stable option then why did the S&W, Glock, Ruger, and other manufacturer engineers not design their mag's in this fashion and offer it as standard.?
One could say the EXACT same thing about Apex Trigger Kits, extended Mag Releases, extended Slide Stops, Night Sights and just about any other aftermarket piece, couldn't we??
One could say the EXACT same thing about Apex Trigger Kits, extended Mag Releases, extended Slide Stops, Night Sights and just about any other aftermarket piece, couldn't we??
Yes..I agree with this also...we most certainly could..but round capacity is a critical factor to all manufacturers and obviously increased capacity is a large marketing factor for any handgun. Trigger kits, extended mag releases, extended slide stops, different sights while very nice and desirable to some, in my opinion are not as critical as capacity. Therefore my thinking is that if they were as good as original spec's they would be original specs..I could envision feeding problems without some very high tolerance's which I am not sure these mag guts type conversions have. Just saying........
If you look back through a couple of my very early replies, Feeding problems and (in particular) the follower binding in the mag body WAS (and should be) a primary concern, which is why I put somewhere around 500 mags worth through each before I considered carrying with it. This is also why I recommend everyone who considers trying this to thoroughly test them BEFORE relying on them. Of course... How much testing is 'enough'? Depends on who you ask. How many rounds (or range sessions) did you run through your Shield before you considered it reliable enough to use it for EDC?
I'm not saying these are the best thing since sliced bread, but they're no worse of a mod than an aftermarket "+1" or "+2" mag extension, which could cause binding and/or feeding issues. (I'm obviously talking other guns here, since I don't know of any +1 or +2 extensions for the Shield)
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RobzGuns,,THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!.. Took it apart and yep, the lower spring was backwards. While apart I polished the sides of the follower and both mags work great and insert with one finger not a slap with my palm -- now to the range with 300 rounds..
falconman515
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Ya I will still probably get a set for the 7 and 8 rounder that came with my Shield ... BUT I will no doubt pass for carry ... I just don't trust aftermarket parts like this for something I carry on me to safe my life ... it's gotta go bank Every Single Time and modifying is not smart no matter what way you slice it (not to mention if you ever use your carry pistol, Trust Me, that will go against you in court when you inevitably get sued by the family ... always VERY smart to keep your carry piece Stock!).
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My 2 magguts came in today for my shield 9mm. Set one up in my 7 round mag and one in my 8. 150 rounds per mag of Speer 115 grain and Gold dot 124 +P without one single malfunction. Worked great and locked back when empty. Will do another several hundred rounds but so far in am pretty impressed.
Well made stuff
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My 2 magguts came in today for my shield 9mm. Set one up in my 7 round mag and one in my 8. 150 rounds per mag of Speer 115 grain and Gold dot 124 +P without one single malfunction. Worked great and locked back when empty. Will do another several hundred rounds but so far in am pretty impressed.
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Magazine capacity and +1's
First post, just bought a Shield 9 for EDC and Gunsite 250 Pistol Class in a few wks. I saw a YouTube video last week where a Shield guy took apart 7 and 8 rnd mags. Turns out springs are same length. He cut a couple of coils off his 7 rnd mag spring and got 8 into a 7. I won't do that. I was having trouble topping off mags and decided to get Uplula. I am VERY satisfied w/ its ability to reload mags fast and trouble free. Gunsite class has many pre-reqs, one of which is 6 single stack mags. So I ordered 4 more 8 rnds from Midway. Looking fwd to 5 day class
First post, just bought a Shield 9 for EDC and Gunsite 250 Pistol Class in a few wks. I saw a YouTube video last week where a Shield guy took apart 7 and 8 rnd mags. Turns out springs are same length. He cut a couple of coils off his 7 rnd mag spring and got 8 into a 7. I won't do that. I was having trouble topping off mags and decided to get Uplula. I am VERY satisfied w/ its ability to reload mags fast and trouble free. Gunsite class has many pre-reqs, one of which is 6 single stack mags. So I ordered 4 more 8 rnds from Midway. Looking fwd to 5 day class
Jim1392
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My feeling is not to mess with what is working. If the magazines you have right out of the box work why fool around with them? I think you are just asking for problems. If you can't get out of the situation you might be in with 15 rounds the extra couple won't make much of a difference. I'm very comfortable carrying my Shield with the factory mags.
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Point taken. But if I can add an extra one I would. On a side note when i disassembled my Shield 7 round mag the spring was completely twisted and this was a factory mag. The magguts are a quality well made and works
Inusuit
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I agree, and will not change out the springs in my Shield for anything other than factory originals. I competed in IPSC/USPSA Limited Class for many years. Shooters who messed with magazines often had problems with reliability. 1911s were designed for, and in my experience, function best with seven round magazines.
Grey.Ghost
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I think at last count I am over 800rds in each of mine with zero issues. Very pleased with this upgrade.
pyro
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If you don't have the access or the opportunity for range time, I would not bother with it. Having said that, there many after market companies that innovate and often improve upon features offered by the original manufacturers. I shoot often and I would give the MagGuts a workout, "IF" they made one for the Shield 40cal.
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Same here. At least 200+ rounds through each mag (1 7 round mag and 1 8 round mag) with NO ISSUES AT ALL.
In fact as i stated in an earlier post when I disassembled my 7 round mag (factory) the spring was bent inside the mag well. Which just goes to show even factory mags can malfunction. I think having that one extra round is a hugh plus for shield owners.
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In fact as i stated in an earlier post when I disassembled my 7 round mag (factory) the spring was bent inside the mag well. Which just goes to show even factory mags can malfunction. I think having that one extra round is a hugh plus for shield owners.
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Bozz10mm
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Mine has worked like a champ. No problems at all. I trust it enough for EDC now.
I hate to beat a dead horse BUT. One of the first things 1911 folks do is buy new mags for their 1911. Most likely Wilson combat mags or Chip McCormack. Actually most of us tweak a new gun be it new sights, Apex trigger, guide rods, extended mag or slide lock etc etc. my point is we almost always do something to the gun that isn't factory and it seems to work just fine. Having said that, I know non factory sights does not effect the reliability of a gun, but we all at some point take a factory piece out and put a NON factory piece back in
In fact some after market parts are better than factory original, take APEX Triggers for example.
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In fact some after market parts are better than factory original, take APEX Triggers for example.
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Another 150 rounds thru my magguts 9 round shield 9mm mag without a single malfunction. Have at least 700+ rounds through this one mag and at least 200 thru the 7/8 round mag NO ISSUES. I tried Speer ball and GDHP, Fed HST HP and Fed ball, WWB ball and some Corbon as well. Everything from 115 grain to 147 grain some +P some standard velocity. Tried PMC 9mm and even that **** Yavex 9mm made in Turkey.
Still functioned 100%
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Still functioned 100%
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Picked up 2 more magguts for my shield 9mm. Put 120 rounds throug one and about 100 through the the other not a single malfunction NO issues at all. This will be my 4th magguts and I must say they have been utterly positively reliable.
Very happy with this product and my shield is laser accurate
Very happy with this product and my shield is laser accurate
Another 150 through my magguts shield magazines. ZERO issues i have 4 total inserts 3 in my 8 round mags and 1 in my 7. Prob at least 850 + thru my main carry 9 round mag and prob 250 through the others. Tried the HST 124+P and the 124+P Gold for as those are my two main carry rounds.
They run like champs no issues
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They run like champs no issues
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I just picked up a kit and installed it in my 7 round mag. It took multiple attempts at install before everything clicked into place and it would accept the 8th round, but no more than 5 minutes of messing around with it was necessary. I've since put 150 rounds of cheap Walmart ammo through it without an issue. Very happy with the product. I hope to run some carry rounds through it this next weekend. If all runs well with my carry ammo, I will be picking up a couple more kits.
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