remat457
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Even though I "qualify" to post in the thread (I do own both) that original undiplomatic comment is the reason that I did not participate. This will be my only post.
M&P vs. Glock field striped
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Even though I "qualify" to post in the thread (I do own both) that original undiplomatic comment is the reason that I did not participate. This will be my only post.
Bicky Robby
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Dead thread. Fun while it LASted. Next....
I was watching one of Hickok45's videos the other day (that guy would be awesome to shoot with) and he mentioned that he kept his nails slightly longer on the two fingers he used to take down his Glocks. You can also get an extended tab or lever for Glocks that make it easier to grasp.
I wish they made an extended tab for my SD9. I like my SD9 better than any Glock I have ever owned...the grip feels so much better...and it breaks down just as easily.
Knochen
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Let's liven up this post with how to field strip:
How-To Field Strip and Clean a Glock With Ashley | EyeHandy.com
Where was your focus?
How-To Field Strip and Clean a Glock With Ashley | EyeHandy.com
Where was your focus?
Call me shallow, but I just don't want a Glock based on how ugly they are. . In my experience both are excellent shooters but I get better accuracy with my m&p 9, and look a whole lot cooler shooting with it 
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. In my experience both are excellent shooters but I get better accuracy with my m&p 9, and look a whole lot cooler shooting with it .
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Ursoboostd
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I own a Glock23 and have always love the simplicity and accuracy of it, but I have to reach to get to the mag release. The other day I was handling a M&P 40 and loved the ergonomics. Fit my hand perfectly. This has me looking. -Wade-
Rangel
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I love my M&P and it's the first gun I shoot at the range or carry openly (my state allows that). When I can't carry a gun the size of an M&P 40c, I usually carry a S&W BodyGuard 380 in my pocket, or occasionally a tricked out Glock 27. I'm quite fond of my full sized Springfield XDm 45 ACP too.
But as unpopular as this may sound, I have to admit that if you told me I was being dropped into the wilderness for 90 days and I had JUST one pistol to take with me, it'd be my Glock 17, with lots of HP ammo, with Glock 17 round and 33 round magazines. I consider genuine Glock magazines to be among the best built and most durable, rattle free magzines built.
I like the Glock philosophy of making guns with the absolute minimum amount of parts possible and if nothing else, they are utterly reliable when compared to pretty much any gun, in my own opinion.
I have other brands of fine guns, and that said, the my Glocks are the plainest, most ugly of the bunch. Lastly--not ALL Glocks are great--I wouldn't buy any 4th generation models--I can't believe how they screwed that up! Nor would I buy a few of the other, earlier model (1,2 or 3rd Gen.) Glocks. Just like with hitters in baseball, NO gun manfacturer hits 1000% if they're making a number of guns, no matter if they're all based on the same, or very similar platforms. Even Kimber and a number of other so called 'high end' gun companies have put out some dogs....
I'd like to think we can be objective here, not like some red necks around where I live, who depending on whether you drive a Ford or Chevy truck, will spit at you....
But as unpopular as this may sound, I have to admit that if you told me I was being dropped into the wilderness for 90 days and I had JUST one pistol to take with me, it'd be my Glock 17, with lots of HP ammo, with Glock 17 round and 33 round magazines. I consider genuine Glock magazines to be among the best built and most durable, rattle free magzines built.
I like the Glock philosophy of making guns with the absolute minimum amount of parts possible and if nothing else, they are utterly reliable when compared to pretty much any gun, in my own opinion.
I have other brands of fine guns, and that said, the my Glocks are the plainest, most ugly of the bunch. Lastly--not ALL Glocks are great--I wouldn't buy any 4th generation models--I can't believe how they screwed that up! Nor would I buy a few of the other, earlier model (1,2 or 3rd Gen.) Glocks. Just like with hitters in baseball, NO gun manfacturer hits 1000% if they're making a number of guns, no matter if they're all based on the same, or very similar platforms. Even Kimber and a number of other so called 'high end' gun companies have put out some dogs....
I'd like to think we can be objective here, not like some red necks around where I live, who depending on whether you drive a Ford or Chevy truck, will spit at you....
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Rangel
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Yea--That's how I do it--after I do the hokey pokey and turn myself around--because 'that's what it's all about'--lol
DJBiker
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I have only one question to post here. What makes the Glock easier to field strip? The sear disconnect lever of the M&P?
If so, don't use it! On my M&P's, all 6 of them, you pull the slide back, lock it in place, rotate the takedown lever to the down position, release the slide, pull the trigger, and off it comes, piece of cake.
The sear disconnect lever for field stripping the M&P is only optional if you do not want to pull the trigger. Try it, you'll like it!
JUst for kicks, I just hit the stopwatch on my left wrist, and completely field stripped my M&P and then stopped the stopwatch and it reads 3 seconds. It can't be easier or faster on the Glock unless it falls apart when you shoot it. NOt disrespecting the Glock or any weapon, just wondering how easy that thing can be to get apart? I mean 3 seconds????
If so, don't use it! On my M&P's, all 6 of them, you pull the slide back, lock it in place, rotate the takedown lever to the down position, release the slide, pull the trigger, and off it comes, piece of cake.
The sear disconnect lever for field stripping the M&P is only optional if you do not want to pull the trigger. Try it, you'll like it!
JUst for kicks, I just hit the stopwatch on my left wrist, and completely field stripped my M&P and then stopped the stopwatch and it reads 3 seconds. It can't be easier or faster on the Glock unless it falls apart when you shoot it. NOt disrespecting the Glock or any weapon, just wondering how easy that thing can be to get apart? I mean 3 seconds????
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DJBiker
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Ok, one small caveat for those attempting the three second breakdown of the M&P. Watch out for that ejector when the slide comes forward, it can bite your hand, LOL!
Rangel
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DJBiker:
Three seconds?--Man o live--that's fast! Way to go--I know I can't beat that.
How about this 8 y/o in this video, field stripping and reassembling an AR15 in record time? I think she's awesome.
Britlee 8 year old girl field strips AR-15 - YouTube
Three seconds?--Man o live--that's fast! Way to go--I know I can't beat that.
How about this 8 y/o in this video, field stripping and reassembling an AR15 in record time? I think she's awesome.
Britlee 8 year old girl field strips AR-15 - YouTube
DJBiker
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Now that was awesome! Great little girl he has there.
If you want to talk about a basic design that is easy to maintain, it can not get any easier than a SIG P250. There are only two springs on the FCU. on is for the hammer and the other is for the trigger return. You can strip it down in a couple minutes without any tools.
That said, I can shoot better with my new MP40 than I can with the Sig 250C. I think the Sig trigger pull tought me to be more disciplined with my trigger than if I had started out with the MP or Glock.
That said, I can shoot better with my new MP40 than I can with the Sig 250C. I think the Sig trigger pull tought me to be more disciplined with my trigger than if I had started out with the MP or Glock.
45caldan
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I think as far as which looks more robust, the solid pins in a Glock look more "robust" to me than the roll pins used in the M&Ps.....
Dragon6
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"Robust" ??? Isn't the whole idea of the polymer pistol to be less robust, ie heavy? Robust may not equal reliable. Isn't reliability the real issue? You can't see reliability. Just try to buy a car and determine it's reliability by looking at it. Good luck!
45caldan
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I believe the OP is meaning to say durable when saying robust....
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I won't say Glock's pins are any more "robust" than the M&P's. I've seen quite a few trigger pins break on Glock 40s. Also remember the trigger housing pins are polymer. Never seen them break, but they're not taking the same shock as the trigger pins. The Glock is a very simple, durable package, but its a mechanical device. I've also had a slide lock lever spring break on my 23 and that puts a Glock out of action faster than the trigger pin. I love my M&P 45FS, but still shooting to find out how it holds up over the long term. Its got a lottle over 5K thru it now. Nothing has broke yet. If i had a lot more money, I'd do an M&P torture test of my own. The Glock is a very good pistol, but the M&P is pretty decent in its own right.
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Silversmok3
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This thread reminds me of two guys at a car show discussing interior plastic panel lines between American and Foreign cars, and how the two look different.
A fascinating discussion, except it had jack to do with how the cars performed in the 1/4 mile.
Who cares what the grain of the plastic looks like on the M&P, or whether a Glock 'look's more robust field stripped?The bad guy who picks you for a target isn't going to run screaming into the night because your gun has tighter tolerances than his!
What counts is putting rounds on target.Because all of us have different hands and eyes,we all will not and indeed can't do it with one type of gun.Rather than pee on someone's parade because they carry an M&P, perhaps that energy is better spent dry-firing you own weapon?
/endrant.
A fascinating discussion, except it had jack to do with how the cars performed in the 1/4 mile.
Who cares what the grain of the plastic looks like on the M&P, or whether a Glock 'look's more robust field stripped?The bad guy who picks you for a target isn't going to run screaming into the night because your gun has tighter tolerances than his!
What counts is putting rounds on target.Because all of us have different hands and eyes,we all will not and indeed can't do it with one type of gun.Rather than pee on someone's parade because they carry an M&P, perhaps that energy is better spent dry-firing you own weapon?
/endrant.
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Titegroups
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Great analogy, but instead of looking at the plastic interior parts lets say we tore the motor down and and took a look at the camshaft, the camshaft in my engine has "lumps" on it that are slightly bigger than the lumps on yours, although seeming meaningless to the some it very likely would make a considerable difference in the 1/4 mile times. The wood grain plastic interior, probably not. The whole point.
