M&P VS Glock
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M&Ps are great guns for sure, but there are some things I like more about Glocks. I like the lower bore axis of Glocks (which I find results in less muzzle flip) and the fact that it comes with a decent trigger pull from the factory.
Whoever at S&W thought that was a good trigger pull must be either mistaken or in denial. But, this is the company that gave us the dreaded Sigma trigger pull.
Whoever at S&W thought that was a good trigger pull must be either mistaken or in denial. But, this is the company that gave us the dreaded Sigma trigger pull.
DocSunShine
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Lower bore axis on the Glock? Have you actually shot both? Recoil on the M&P is better, just sayin.
Can't deny the mistake they originally made with the trigger, but S&W just started shipping guns with upgraded trigger and that trigger for all intensive purposes is equal to the Glock trigger.
The best part about M&P over Glock right now? No systemic erratic ejection issue that all Glocks made the past couple of years seem to have. Not to mention the fact it has light years better ergos, it's American made and aftermarket accessories and spare parts are just as easy to obtain for an M&P.
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The majority of erratic ejections are user and ammo related. More people own Glocks which is why you hear about it more often. It happens with M&P too.
DocSunShine
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If that's the case, then why did we start hearing about erratic ejection issues right around the time the gen4s came out? I'd never heard or experienced any issues with a Glock previous to this?
And yes any gun can suffer from erratic ejections, all manufacturers can and do, put out the occasional lemon and M&Ps are no different (think FS 9mm accuracy issue with light ammo), just seems like it's a bit more of a problem with Glock than the occasional lemon. Idk, maybe Glock has since addressed the problem, but just hearing about these issues makes me not want to buy anymore of them, just my two cents.
I own both, shoot them both fairly often and still think the Glock has less muzzle flip. That's just my personal perception though.
I'm so glad they figured out what a decent trigger is AFTER I've bought a couple M&Ps myself. It's still a great gun, but I just don't get why it didn't have a good trigger to begin with.
My Glock 19 is less than 2 years old and has no erratic ejection issues.
I'm not anti-M&P by any means, but there are a few things I don't like about them that I don't think is unwarranted.
Is it true that the M&P ejector has a holding pin that can't be pushed out without a machine press?
SavageSmoker
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Well...I just bought an M&P 40c today and am not too happy with it. I have not shot it yet but initial review shows it won't feed Hornady CD ammo well and I did a side by side dry fire trigger pull and the Glock has less travel and seems a bit more crisp. I am glad I kept my G19, it may prove to be a more dependable and reliable firearm down the road. Love my shield though.
BoringGuy45
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Honestly, all things considered, both are excellent choices and it really comes down to preference. I prefer the M&P because it fits my hand better, it recoils smoother, I find it more accurate, and it's just as easy to maintain as the Glock. While the Gen4 frames do fit my hand better than previous models, Glocks don't point as well for me and are just plain uncomfortable.
Glock is largely popular for two reasons: 1) Because they are cheap to make, they can give almost unmatchable deals to LE and military, 2) Glock has a major cult following. While every gun company and model has their extreme cheering section, Glock has the loudest, largest, and most "monotheistic" fanboys. I know a lot of S&W owners who also own a lot of different styles (including Glocks), but the Glockaphiles only like Glock. They always tell stories about how they used to have Sigs, HKs, S&Ws, 1911s of all shapes and sizes, and how NONE of them could even get through a whole magazine, but of the 50 Glocks they've owned, NONE of them have ever jammed and they haven't even had to clean them. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say, "The ONLY gun I would trust my life to is a Glock." Well, if there is only one model of pistol in the entire firearms industry that is reliable, the firearms industry is in REALLY sorry shape! I will say, that H&K's extremists are nearly as annoying, but they are fewer (due to the higher prices of HK).
Now, if a person owns only Glock because he/she loves the way they fit, they shoot them well, and overall, they are satisfied, that's great. I just don't like the Glock fans who look down on absolutely every other gun in the industry and treat anyone who isn't as crazy about Glocks as though they have some kind of mental issue.
Glock is largely popular for two reasons: 1) Because they are cheap to make, they can give almost unmatchable deals to LE and military, 2) Glock has a major cult following. While every gun company and model has their extreme cheering section, Glock has the loudest, largest, and most "monotheistic" fanboys. I know a lot of S&W owners who also own a lot of different styles (including Glocks), but the Glockaphiles only like Glock. They always tell stories about how they used to have Sigs, HKs, S&Ws, 1911s of all shapes and sizes, and how NONE of them could even get through a whole magazine, but of the 50 Glocks they've owned, NONE of them have ever jammed and they haven't even had to clean them. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say, "The ONLY gun I would trust my life to is a Glock." Well, if there is only one model of pistol in the entire firearms industry that is reliable, the firearms industry is in REALLY sorry shape! I will say, that H&K's extremists are nearly as annoying, but they are fewer (due to the higher prices of HK).
Now, if a person owns only Glock because he/she loves the way they fit, they shoot them well, and overall, they are satisfied, that's great. I just don't like the Glock fans who look down on absolutely every other gun in the industry and treat anyone who isn't as crazy about Glocks as though they have some kind of mental issue.
spirit4earth
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Mist, Do you find that there's really much of a carry difference between the Shield and the 9c? Thanks!
You cant compare the two not even close the Glock is comprised of high tech nano-polycomposites that increase accuracy by 97%. The barrel is lined with platinum to increase muzzle velocity by 700fps. Glock provides you with super advanced plastic sights capable of at least 200yd shots.
With the advanced design all modern Glocks are guaranteed to never malfunction. The grip was designed by the word's greatest engineers to give you the feeling that you are holding a plastic 2X4.
As an added bonus ....with the purchase of every Glock you get a lifetime membership to Mall Ninjas of America.
With the advanced design all modern Glocks are guaranteed to never malfunction. The grip was designed by the word's greatest engineers to give you the feeling that you are holding a plastic 2X4.
As an added bonus ....with the purchase of every Glock you get a lifetime membership to Mall Ninjas of America.
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bp231986
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i like both and trust both 
bgs210
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By the way, what's a Glock???
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I've carried both pistols AIWB. Based upon my mode of dress both of them conceal easily, however for me the Shield is much more comfortable over the 9C due to its smaller / slimmer size and lighter weight. I carry a spare magazine in my back pocket alongside my creds wallet, and find the fit of the Shield magazine more comfortable and preferable to the 9C magazine. Different strokes for different folks, but this is what I've found works for me.
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