M&P VS Glock

[M&P 9mm Shooter]

I own 4 Glocks(17/23/21SF/20)and now that I bought this M&P 9mm full size and took her to the range I am so over Glock. The M&P looks a lot nicer and the grip angle and grip thickness with the small back strap is just a dream. I installed a Apex sear & plunger with a full trigger internal polish and WOW!

I already sold my G21SF and picking up a M&P 45acp full size next weekend. My G20 I am keeping because when I go to the mountains she goes with me but the other 2 are going bye bye soon.

 

[JaPes]

I own 4 Glocks(17/23/21SF/20)and now that I bought this M&P 9mm full size and took her to the range I am so over Glock. The M&P looks a lot nicer and the grip angle and grip thickness with the small back strap is just a dream.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. The Glock's ergonomics pale in comparison to the M&P.

I already sold my G21SF and picking up a M&P 45acp full size next weekend.

LOL. I had a 21SF too. I wanted to like it, but it just didn't fit me right. I'd have replaced it with an M&P 45, but .45ACP isn't my primary caliber. I have a Ruger SR1911 for my .45ACP range jollies.

My G20 I am keeping because when I go to the mountains she goes with me

...until S&W engineers decide to let loose a M&P 10mm

but the other 2 are going bye bye soon.

My G17g4 and G19g4 went bye-bye a few weeks ago. I thought I'd feel bad about it, but I don't.

 

[M&P 9mm Shooter]

LOL. I had a 21SF too. I wanted to like it, but it just didn't fit me right. I'd have replaced it with an M&P 45, but .45ACP isn't my primary caliber. I have a Ruger SR1911 for my .45ACP range jollies.

My 21SF had the dual ambi mag released and to release a loaded mag you had to push up hard on the mag to release mag because the button stuck so hard.

 

[Martimus]

My ol' lady has a G17 and loves it. Me... I simply don't like the feel of it in my hand. I'm slowly but surely educating her to appreciate the M&P9. Only problem is that she now wants one of her own... or better still one of mine!

 

[j.glock]

I can relate I sold my g26 Gen 4 and bought the shield the same day. I'm happy I.did. I still own glocks but plan to.add m&PS. But in all honesty shoot a walther ppq any polymer gun will feel inferior

 

[clcdawg]

I am right there also. I was a huge Glock guy until I got my M&P. I traded my last Glock for a Ruger SR 1911 back in April.

 

[GKC]

I traded my last Glock for a Ruger SR 1911 back in April.

Now, that was one heck of a good trade!

I have small hands, and the only Glock that ever fit me comfortably was the 36. The Gen4 models came closer, but nothing compared to the M&Ps...and the Shield is just perfect for CCW!

 

[Will Carry]

Shame! Shame on all of you! Oh wait...this is not the Glock forum! It's the Smith forum........never mind.
I had a Glock 36. Hated it! I now have a Glock 19. I can shoot it well becuase I practice with it a lot. It's the pistol I trust my life with. It's like holding a paperback novel. The M&P has a nice grip and grip angle. I would consider buying one in the future but my next Smith is going to be a model 27.

 

[JaPes]

I am right there also. I was a huge Glock guy until I got my M&P. I traded my last Glock for a Ruger SR 1911 back in April.

That's like trading in a Honda for a BMW. Awesome trade my friend!

I had a Glock 36. Hated it! I now have a Glock 19. I can shoot it well becuase I practice with it a lot. It's the pistol I trust my life with. It's like holding a paperback novel. The M&P has a nice grip and grip angle. I would consider buying one in the future but my next Smith is going to be a model 27.

I used to own a Glock 19 Gen4. I too practiced with it often, and will still trust my life to a Glock 19. The Glock 19 is very accurate in my hands. I consider the Glock 19 Gen4 to be an excellent gun.

My only issue is that I had to conform to the Glock grip. The M&P grip conforms to me. The better ergonomic fit makes the M&P feel like a natural extension of my will. While a good gun, the Glock never felt like an extension of my will.

 

[texas48]

I did own 4 Glocks. My EDC a G 29sf or a 20sf but wanted at least a 40 caliber for lighter carry or a pocket .40 so I traded my G23 RTF for a M&P shield. The shield is a great firearm.Smith got this gun right. Have owned a couple ion G27's but the 27's were snappier than the Shield and was surprised that to me the Shield is more controllable the the sub c Glocks. The ergonomics are much better , trigger is better.
Now I wish that Smith would get into the 10mm. Doubt that this will happen. Glad I traded my 23 for the Shield.

 

[klassic]

Another one here, I bought my m&p9 talo @ a gun show and loved the feel right away. I now have well over 2k in rounds through it and I'm in love.

No sooner I bough the m&p my g23 lived in my range bag and shortly after I just sold a fully worked g23 with brand new night sights, 3.5 connector, Steel guide rod

And I don't miss it a bit and everyone I let shoot my m&p wants one of their own right after...

 

[budrichard]

My wife has purchased a Gen4 G19 and a S&W MP 9mm.
I have shot both and look at these polymer framed striker fired pistols as commodities. Anyone of these will function well and will do the job right out of the box.
The G19 trigger feels a little too light for me and requires care on holstering as with any other handgun but more so.
Both pistols have factory Night Sights and are accurate in both POI and group size at 15 yds. WE use 124 gr Lawman for practise and she carries 124 Gold Dot.
I see no decided difference in either pistol.-Dick

 

[packinaglock]

My wife has purchased a Gen4 G19 and a S&W MP 9mm.
I have shot both and look at these polymer framed striker fired pistols as commodities. Anyone of these will function well and will do the job right out of the box.
The G19 trigger feels a little too light for me and requires care on holstering as with any other handgun but more so.
Both pistols have factory Night Sights and are accurate in both POI and group size at 15 yds. WE use 124 gr Lawman for practise and she carries 124 Gold Dot.
I see no decided difference in either pistol.-Dick

I have both and agree they will each do their part if you do yours.

 

[joechaos]

I have had both pistols and have to give it to the Glock side. I feel the Glock had a superior build quality and had the reputation as a primary pistol. But the Glock or M&P pale in comparison to my H&K P30. If I was to stake my life on a single pistol, the H&K would be king.

 

[DocSunShine]

I have had both pistols and have to give it to the Glock side. I feel the Glock had a superior build quality and had the reputation as a primary pistol. But the Glock or M&P pale in comparison to my H&K P30. If I was to stake my life on a single pistol, the H&K would be king.

Check out GlockTalk, all you read is threads about guys getting brass spitting back in their face from Glocks, so if Glock had a reputation for superior build quality, it's at least been tarnished.

H&K P30 is top quality no doubt, that is if you like hammer fired pistols, ergo's are a dream. For the money you can't beat an M&P. With S&W recently upgrading the factory trigger, I really can't think of one real advantage Glock has over M&Ps.

 

[Edmo]

You guys can send all of those blocky, brass spitting, 2x4 feeling GLOCKS to me...

I'll make sure they get their just deserts!

Edmo

 

[MIST]

My issued duty pistol is a Glock 21. My agency gives members the choice of a 21 or 22; nothing else. I train with it often.

I've owned / carried a few different Glock models in the past, but don't currently have one other than my duty pistol. Included in my small collection presently is an M&P Shield 9 and 9C. I've researched Glock, M&P as well as a few others. I went to the range yesterday with the intention of coming home with either a FS M&P 9 or a Glock 17 and 19. I took my 9C along and found the other three in the rental arsenal of a LGS. I fired 50 rounds through each pistol for a total of 200 rounds. Taking into account all aspects of what I want and / or need in a pistol, the M&P's were the clear choice for me. I certainly won't speak badly of Glock as they are fine pistols. I simply prefer the M&P at this point. But things can change. They often do.

 

[Grjfer]

It's a ford vs Chevy battle. Not everyone likes the same thing.

I have owned Glocks for over 11 years. Still have a G26, however just as times change so do we as humans. I just picked up my first M&P9, and I will say it will not be my last. I like Glocks for what they are, and their reliability. They do seem to lack in forward thinking. That is where Smith & Wesson has been shining lately. The M&P line has so much going for it. I see a new M&P9c in my future. YMMV.

 

[Genthod]

I rented the M & P 9c and the Glock 19 . Bought the Glock. To me the Gen 4 grip fits. The M&P fits me also but not better than the Glock. Rent before you buy, we are all different. Although I bought the Shield without shooting it and love it! There are exceptions!

 

[1fly2ty]

I managed a LGS and when the first S&W M&P 9L showed up I knew by the feel in my hand that my Glock 23 was going to have to find a new home! Next I traded into a brand new M&P 40c and I carried this for a while, and then disaster hit S&W came out with the Shield and although I don't work at the LGS anymore I was able to get my hands on one immediately and it is one of the nicest firearms I have ever carried> Now heres my plight, I have a Kimber Crimson Trace Pro Carry ll, I love the gun but I want an M&P-22 and An M&P in .45acp, am I crazy to trade off the Kimber for 2 more M&P's? I will still have a 1911 Natioanl Match Pistol so it's not like I won't have another 1911! This M&P platform is driving me to madness, can you ever have enough of them? By the way sold the Glock last weekend.

 

[gzimm]

I do t sell guns unless the fail on me. I'll keep my glock 35 and 27, but just got a m&p 40, shield 40, and will get an m&p 22 for practice too.

 

[(ThatGuy)]

M&Ps are great guns for sure, but there are some things I like more about Glocks. I like the lower bore axis of Glocks (which I find results in less muzzle flip) and the fact that it comes with a decent trigger pull from the factory.

Whoever at S&W thought that was a good trigger pull must be either mistaken or in denial. But, this is the company that gave us the dreaded Sigma trigger pull.

 

[DocSunShine]

M&Ps are great guns for sure, but there are some things I like more about Glocks. I like the lower bore axis of Glocks (which I find results in less muzzle flip) and the fact that it comes with a decent trigger pull from the factory.

Whoever at S&W thought that was a good trigger pull must be either mistaken or in denial. But, this is the company that gave us the dreaded Sigma trigger pull.

Lower bore axis on the Glock? Have you actually shot both? Recoil on the M&P is better, just sayin.

Can't deny the mistake they originally made with the trigger, but S&W just started shipping guns with upgraded trigger and that trigger for all intensive purposes is equal to the Glock trigger.

The best part about M&P over Glock right now? No systemic erratic ejection issue that all Glocks made the past couple of years seem to have. Not to mention the fact it has light years better ergos, it's American made and aftermarket accessories and spare parts are just as easy to obtain for an M&P.

 

[kodiakpb]

Lower bore axis on the Glock? Have you actually shot both? Recoil on the M&P is better, just sayin.

Can't deny the mistake they originally made with the trigger, but S&W just started shipping guns with upgraded trigger and that trigger for all intensive purposes is equal to the Glock trigger.

The best part about M&P over Glock right now? No systemic erratic ejection issue that all Glocks made the past couple of years seem to have. Not to mention the fact it has light years better ergos, it's American made and aftermarket accessories and spare parts are just as easy to obtain for an M&P.

The majority of erratic ejections are user and ammo related. More people own Glocks which is why you hear about it more often. It happens with M&P too.

 

[DocSunShine]

The majority of erratic ejections are user and ammo related. More people own Glocks which is why you hear about it more often. It happens with M&P too.

If that's the case, then why did we start hearing about erratic ejection issues right around the time the gen4s came out? I'd never heard or experienced any issues with a Glock previous to this?

And yes any gun can suffer from erratic ejections, all manufacturers can and do, put out the occasional lemon and M&Ps are no different (think FS 9mm accuracy issue with light ammo), just seems like it's a bit more of a problem with Glock than the occasional lemon. Idk, maybe Glock has since addressed the problem, but just hearing about these issues makes me not want to buy anymore of them, just my two cents.

 

[MP22]

Wise decision....wise.

 

[(ThatGuy)]

Lower bore axis on the Glock? Have you actually shot both? Recoil on the M&P is better, just sayin.

I own both, shoot them both fairly often and still think the Glock has less muzzle flip. That's just my personal perception though.

Can't deny the mistake they originally made with the trigger, but S&W just started shipping guns with upgraded trigger and that trigger for all intensive purposes is equal to the Glock trigger.

I'm so glad they figured out what a decent trigger is AFTER I've bought a couple M&Ps myself. It's still a great gun, but I just don't get why it didn't have a good trigger to begin with.

The best part about M&P over Glock right now? No systemic erratic ejection issue that all Glocks made the past couple of years seem to have.

My Glock 19 is less than 2 years old and has no erratic ejection issues.

I'm not anti-M&P by any means, but there are a few things I don't like about them that I don't think is unwarranted.

Is it true that the M&P ejector has a holding pin that can't be pushed out without a machine press?

 

[SavageSmoker]

Well...I just bought an M&P 40c today and am not too happy with it. I have not shot it yet but initial review shows it won't feed Hornady CD ammo well and I did a side by side dry fire trigger pull and the Glock has less travel and seems a bit more crisp. I am glad I kept my G19, it may prove to be a more dependable and reliable firearm down the road. Love my shield though.

 

[BoringGuy45]

Honestly, all things considered, both are excellent choices and it really comes down to preference. I prefer the M&P because it fits my hand better, it recoils smoother, I find it more accurate, and it's just as easy to maintain as the Glock. While the Gen4 frames do fit my hand better than previous models, Glocks don't point as well for me and are just plain uncomfortable.

Glock is largely popular for two reasons: 1) Because they are cheap to make, they can give almost unmatchable deals to LE and military, 2) Glock has a major cult following. While every gun company and model has their extreme cheering section, Glock has the loudest, largest, and most "monotheistic" fanboys. I know a lot of S&W owners who also own a lot of different styles (including Glocks), but the Glockaphiles only like Glock. They always tell stories about how they used to have Sigs, HKs, S&Ws, 1911s of all shapes and sizes, and how NONE of them could even get through a whole magazine, but of the 50 Glocks they've owned, NONE of them have ever jammed and they haven't even had to clean them. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say, "The ONLY gun I would trust my life to is a Glock." Well, if there is only one model of pistol in the entire firearms industry that is reliable, the firearms industry is in REALLY sorry shape! I will say, that H&K's extremists are nearly as annoying, but they are fewer (due to the higher prices of HK).

Now, if a person owns only Glock because he/she loves the way they fit, they shoot them well, and overall, they are satisfied, that's great. I just don't like the Glock fans who look down on absolutely every other gun in the industry and treat anyone who isn't as crazy about Glocks as though they have some kind of mental issue.

 

[spirit4earth]

My issued duty pistol is a Glock 21. My agency gives members the choice of a 21 or 22; nothing else. I train with it often.

I've owned / carried a few different Glock models in the past, but don't currently have one other than my duty pistol. Included in my small collection presently is an M&P Shield 9 and 9C. I've researched Glock, M&P as well as a few others. I went to the range yesterday with the intention of coming home with either a FS M&P 9 or a Glock 17 and 19. I took my 9C along and found the other three in the rental arsenal of a LGS. I fired 50 rounds through each pistol for a total of 200 rounds. Taking into account all aspects of what I want and / or need in a pistol, the M&P's were the clear choice for me. I certainly won't speak badly of Glock as they are fine pistols. I simply prefer the M&P at this point. But things can change. They often do.

Mist, Do you find that there's really much of a carry difference between the Shield and the 9c? Thanks!