M&P9"L" Pro Series CORE vs. M&P9 Pro Series CORE? Different Look On Slide Same Gun?

[falconman515]

M&P9"L" Pro Series CORE vs. M&P9 Pro Series CORE? Different Look On Slide Same Gun?

So I have seen a different look on this gun in amny pics, reviews, videos, etc.

Once shows the slide saying M&P9L Pro Series (in fancy write cursive writing) CORE ( Do Know The L is for Long Slide) .............

And another that says M&P9 (no "L") Pro Series (stamped in slide) CORE.

I am assuming the first is the older version and look that says L with the cursive Pro Series?

Is there Any difference between these two other then how it looks? Internals, Barrel, trigger, etc. etc.???

Pictures of what I am talking about below.

Thanks for the info (I'm picking up mine and I want to make sure I don't something old that may be dated with not as good parts etc.)

Whats The Difference In These Two???

M&P9L (Cursive) Pro Series CORE Has the "L" for Long Slide and the unstamped white cursive Pro Series writing....

M&P 9 (Stamped) Pro Series CORE This pic IS of the 5" Long Slide, but there is no L now with it all stamped in slide....

 

[Bkreutz]

The differences would be the barrel which is now a 1:10 twist, the newer trigger transfer bar, and possibly the new slide lock. (mine is 6/13 and doesn't have the slide lock, but does have the new trigger bar and did have the newer barrel).

 

[falconman515]

So all new ones look like yours Bkreutz?

The ones with the L and white writing is the old version?

When did this production change occur?

 

[Bkreutz]

So all new ones look like yours Bkreutz?

The ones with the L and white writing is the old version?

When did this production change occur?

Mine is the current production. I don't know when they changed.

 

[falconman515]

just want to know once mine arrives it is newer with the newer parts.

So just make sure mine looks like yours then right and the L with write writing right?

 

[Bkreutz]

The pictures on the S&W website show the Core with the 9L roll marks and the script "Pro Series", it's the same picture that was there a year ago when I got mine. Mine is the version that doesn't say "L" and the "Pro Series" is roll marked into the slide. I figured it was just an old picture that they hadn't got around to changing. I have a hard time figuring out that website.

 

[falconman515]

Ya I assumed the same exact thing ... Figured that was what it First looked like when they started making it so that's the picture they used ... but when it changed (maybe last year or so sounds like) like you said they just kept the same pic.

Unnerving for me a little for the fact what comes in is the gun I have to keep or I pay 25% fee ... I would be pissed if I got an old one and had to pay $175 cause I told em No I don't want an old friggin gun you know.

One reason I hate special ordering **** like this with changes and they are not ssay a Gen change to where you order the new Gen like Glock you know ... Then if you get an old one your screwed .... Like paying for a Gen4 Glock and getting a Gen3 and them saying sorry it;s yours now or you pay 25%

And with S&W still showing the old model it takes away me being able to say Hell No You Ordered Me An Old One .... when it still shows the same old pic on their website.

Hopefully I get something all new I'm good to go ... guess I'll find out when it arrives, I just wanted to know what to look for is all. But if it has the 9L and Script Pro Series I'm gonna pitch a fit big time ... I'll be damned if I pay full price for an old gun with old parts and pay full price a "New" version and get something old you know.

 

[falconman515]

Sure wish I knew when the new look and upgraded version went into to production and the old one went out???

Be good to know that just in case.

Anyone know this?

 

[Bkreutz]

Where did you order yours from? I doubt S&W has any of the old ones still in inventory. I think all they did was use the same slide as the pro series. Maybe originally they wanted to have a different "look" for the Core but then reconsidered and realized that most of the people who would be shooting them couldn't care less about the external appearance (I know I don't and it's not a topic that comes up at any of the matches I participate in).

 

[falconman515]

I ordered from my local FFL who ordered it from one of there dealers somewhere in Reno, NV.

So I have no clue how much stock they run though from this place they ordered it from.

I don;t care AT ALL about the look of the slide ... more about what is NOT upgraded like the barrel, trigger parts, etc. if for some weird ol' reason I ended up with the old look ... I would know I'm paying full price for a gun that has old internals that have since been upgraded you know.

Just be good to know when they made this change so I know I got the new stuff ... anyway to see the barrel and know you got the new 1:10 Twist? Or know if it's the transfer bar or slide lock?

I want to make sure what I get is "Current Gen" and has everything it's suppose to that is new (since I'm paying for "new").

 

[Bkreutz]

I've been thinking about this since last night. I don't recall ever seeing the Core with the script "Pro Series" white lettering in person. The only place I've seen it is in advertizing. The Core was first available late summer 2012, I looked at a few videos, on the S&W site they show the white lettering in the pictures, but when they show Jerry M shooting it, it doesn't have the lettering. I looked at a video (again by Jerry M) that was made 2/13, he is shown using one with the white lettering S&W M&P C.O.R.E. Review by Jerry Miculek - YouTube

looking at another video that was made in June of 2013, he's using one that doesn't have the lettering. S&W M&P C.O.R.E. review update with Jerry Miculek - YouTube.

I think since you've already ordered it, no sense in spending any time worrying about it. It will be a great shooter and I suspect it will have all the current parts (I still wonder if the Core ever had any of the previous versions of the parts) I've got over 50K mostly trouble free rounds through mine (broke a trigger return spring at ~ 40K).

 

[falconman515]

Ya ... But both of those videos show the white script "Pro Series" in both of em.

More then likely cause they are same gun both videos of course. There are TONS of the CORE's out there with the old white lettering if you just google M&P9 Pro Series CORE and click on images ... a whole lot.

I just was hoping to not get something old is all ... I'm headed today to the gun shop, they called and said it's in so I will know in a few hours anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to reply ... I will let you know hwo it turns out.

 

[Jim Watson]

Does the "new trigger bar" include the Glock type safety blade in the trigger (Bkreutz's in post #2)? I'd be more interested in that mechanical difference than the style of the trademarks.

 

[Bkreutz]

Does the "new trigger bar" include the Glock type safety blade in the trigger (Bkreutz's in post #2)? I'd be more interested in that mechanical difference than the style of the trademarks.

No, the trigger bar is separate from the trigger. That's an Apex polymer trigger in my picture.

 

[Jim Watson]

Oh, aftermarket, OK.

 

[falconman515]

All looks good ... New slide look and test shot at S&W in January!

In jail for 10 days .... All should be good with this one I think.

So more your on your APEX trigger ... Easy install? Does it help with reset or did you install the RAM as well?

I know many say the Apex parts are like night and day so I'm thinking about just ordering and getting used to that instead of the stock trigger ... Thoughts?

Any more info you can provide on that would be great.

 

[Bkreutz]

All looks good ... New slide look and test shot at S&W in January!

In jail for 10 days .... All should be good with this one I think.

So more your on your APEX trigger ... Easy install? Does it help with reset or did you install the RAM as well?

I know many say the Apex parts are like night and day so I'm thinking about just ordering and getting used to that instead of the stock trigger ... Thoughts?

Any more info you can provide on that would be great.

The Apex is night and day, I installed the FSS and the polymer trigger. I did not install the RAM because I don't shoot to reset (too slow). Hardest part is picking which trigger return spring to use. I ended up re-using the stock spring which gave me a 4# trigger. You still need to file/sand/stone the part of the trigger bar that pushes on the striker block to get rid of the serrations from the manufacturing process (or shoot a couple of thousand rounds which will do the same thing). There have been a number of threads here that have talked about the Apex trigger and sear kits. Have fun with your new pistol. I couldn't imagine having to wait 10 days to take possession. I'm used to impulse buying I guess, I see it, I like it, I buy it, and I walk out with it.

 

[falconman515]

Good ol' $#!t Hole California!!!

Thanks for info I'll start researching more.

Was the install easy or did you have a gunsmith do it?

 

[erick1987]

I put the apex fss kit with aluminum trigger in mine as well as the ram. Made it a whole new gun. There is an install video on YouTube from apex. I have never had my gun apart before or anything like it and it took me a little under an hour including to take it back apart and install the factory trigger spring. Ended up with a 3.5 lb pull. Also get the armorer block. Makes it way easier to work on.

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[falconman515]

Thanks for the info ... I didn't know anything about that Apex Armorer Block ... looks as if it would make doing small gunsmithing stuff on your M&P (is made for glock as well) a lot easier.

Not sure yet ... I may wait to see if the trigger breaks in and feels okay after a while I dunno.

I am not doing anything competition ... just plinking at the range and trying to hit the spots and get good groups ... so I would assume the reset may not be needed and who knows maybe the trigger neither for that matter really.

I think I'm gonna save for an optic really ... then think about the other stuff maybe.

Just looking forward to getting her out of jail and pumping some lead through her is all ... now I gotta start stocking up on 9mm ... geez these prices are nuts.