Making Oregon a "sanctuary state" for animals

[1sailor]

A proposed new Oregon law is now in the signature gathering stage and is expected to make the ballot on upcoming elections. I doubt it will pass but Portland is pretty out of touch with reality so it just might (they control about 60% of the vote). Under the new proposed law it would be unlawful for ranchers etc to harvest any animals for meat. This includes beef, chicken, pork, etc. They can only be raised for milk, rodeo's, and wool. Oregon has some pretty stiff anti-cruelty laws pertaining to animals. The new law if passed would lift any exemptions from ranchers and harvesting meat would be considered animal cruelty. Those proposing the new law say that ranchers can just switch to growing produce and it won't affect their livelihood. As I understand it this law may also apply to hunting and fishing although this was not made clear in the article I read. They claim they would be making Oregon into a sanctuary state for animals. Personally I am against being cruel to animals and actually feel kind of strongly about it but I think this goes too far. Like I said it probably won't pass but you never know.

 

[walkin jack]

I believe in stopping cruelty to animals but that proposal is WWWAAAYYY out of line. I can think of several things right off the top of my head:

How would they manage populatiion control for deer and other game animal and fish too?

How would the state feel about the loss of proceeds from all those hunting and fishing licenses?

How about the income of all those guides and outfitters and sporting goods retailers who sell hunting rifles and pistols and ammunition and archery supplies and equipment?

How about all the revenue lost to the state from sales tax on the above items. I see objections to this on both sides of the aisle

Sounds like somebody didn't think this through.

 

[Ed Fowler]

Just wait until their big city is over run with deer eating their flowers and they will change their minds!

 

[1sailor]

Yeah I really hope it doesn't pass but, Portland is not always in touch with the real world. So, there is a chance it will pass. Oregon is a hugely rural state. We have wild wilderness areas that cover hundreds of square miles with no or very few roads. Most of the state is quite conservative and many are hunters and fisherman. Unfortunately, way up in the NW corner of the state you have Portland. Even though the Portland metro area occupies a very small portion of Oregon they have 60% of the votes so the rest of us pretty much have to live with whatever craziness they come up with. Oregon is NOT Portland and Portland is NOT Oregon.

 

[LittleCooner]

No wonder the "greater Idaho" movement is taking roots in Oregon. Oregon is going to leave Portland and their crazy idea and join Idaho.

 

[Mule Packer]

Hmmm. Does that mean that when you go to an Oregon restaurant, all you can order is salad? As Julia Child would say, "Bon appetite!!"

 

[vonn]

Some people live in a world that exists only for them and Disney .

 

[Muss Muggins]

Oregon's #3 ag product is cattle. Good luck with that . . .

 

[Rustyt1953]

There's a chance we could be wrong.

 

[Muss Muggins]

if they had opposable thumbs, they'd be eating us . . .

 

[quikdraw67]

Nuke Portland.

Win/win.

Just sayin'

 

[STORM2]

The text of the bill could be interpreted to outlaw pest control and fly swatting!

 

[Jessie]

What's much worse is watching them starve to death because of overpopulation.
I thought science mattered…

 

[snowman]

Those proposing the new law say that ranchers can just switch to growing produce and it won't affect their livelihood.

Unless my understanding of the differences between ranching and growing produce is far, far removed from reality, that has to be one of the most jaw-dropping, foolish sentiments i've heard in a very long time. Unfortunately I have no time now to explain myself.

Regards,
Andy

 

[Golddollar]

Just wait until their big city is over run with deer eating their flowers and they will change their minds!

Or their crackerbox cars have $3000 in body work from hitting a deer.

 

[Fishinfool]

I understand you fellas down in Texas are over run with wild hogs, and take to shootin em to control the populations.

In the interest of preventing such drastic measures, maybe a couple concerned Texans should live trap a couple hundred hogs, load em in trucks, and bring em up to Portland, and let em go, where they can live in peace and happiness....

Larry

 

[riverrat38]

I wonder if Federal land like National Forests would be included.
I think that the State makes good money leasing grazing land to ranchers. Federal lands also.
If the law only covers harvesting, then it should still be possible to "import" our good Washington beef, etc. If harvesting means slaughter, then the live animals would have to be sold out of State.

73,
Rick

 

[Rudi]

Was it Kurt Vonnegut who said, "never underestimate the stupidity of human beings"? An eruption of Mt. Hood could wipe P.O. off the map tomorrow. Better than a nuke.

 

[Racer X]

rat lives matter!

 

[Mark8]

Was it Kurt Vonnegut who said, "never underestimate the stupidity of human beings"? An eruption of Mt. Hood could wipe P.O. off the map tomorrow. Better than a nuke.

No, that's from Robert A. Heinlein, and the quote is: "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."

Here's one from Kurt Vonnegut:

"When the last living thing has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if Earth could say, in a voice floating up
perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, 'It is done'. People did not like it here."