Mean while, as we discuss S&W collecting, the stock market crashes

I think there will be more volatility but USA is open for business and bad as our markets are they are still the best in the world.
 
I haven't spotted any untethered base jumpers, yet. :eek:

Just a blip on the radar. Sell-offs and profits... so, what's new?

A little bicarb will cure any temporary indigestion.
 
Isn't it normal profit taking? The old "buy low sell high" comes to mind. If we had a crystal ball, we could have short sold some stock and made a killing.
 
That's only half of the equation though. CD rates were that high because interest rates were correspondingly high, as was the cost of living. Which explains why current CD rates are so low: interest, cost of living and inflation are low. I've got a feeling all that's about to change, and I'm not alone as the Market today and last Friday indicate.

I remember back in the seventies inflation was so bad the company I worked for (Fortune 100 outfit) implemented a supplement to our paychecks that was adjusted quarterly, over and above our base salary and any performance based raise we might receive. It was geared to the cost of living index and we wondered if in time it would actually exceed our salaries, given the rate of inflation at the time.

I also remember taking out a second mortgage in '82 to build a garage and do a bit of remodeling. My interest rate was 15%, a fairly decent rate at the time. Two years later I relocated and purchased a new home. As an incentive the builder gave me a 10 1/2% rate on the mortgage for the first 2 years, after which it went to 12 1/2% for the balance of the loan term. Different times back then.

As far as what's happening with the markets right now, that's the funny thing about bubbles. Sooner or later they tend to pop. Although I maintain a fairly conservative portfolio now, what few equities I had I dumped last summer. I'll jump back in when I feel things have stabilized and make more sense to me than they have the last couple of years.
 
Tom,
Can you go into more detail of the inflation rates back in 1987 and relate it to inflation today?

I think that I earned a lot of net returns on FDIC deposits back then (1987) than now? It was later than dividend income and cap gains were taxed at a much lower rate than ordinary and interest income.

My current Form 1040 Schedule D Line 20 allows lower rates on qualified dividends and cap gains rates.

I always look at my net income (less taxes).

They say a picture is worth 1,000 words, so here's 1,000 words worth:

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The 70's and 80's were wild times. I was working at GM, and at the time, a major part of the wage was the cost of living allowance the Union had negotiated with GM. Although it was technically always 'behind the fact', it was certainly better than waiting 3 years for the contract to expire to play catch up. When the contract did expire, the current COLA (Cost Of Living Adjustment) was folded into worker's wages, which was important because many of their benefits were keyed off of hourly wages without the COLA included. Working from memory here, but I believe one contract year the COLA was over $3 an hour. That's a substantial amount of money, even by today's standards.
 
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I made my own “correction” around 2003, and went well diversified. No more home runs for me, a bunch of singles are sufficient.
Helps to sleep better at night too.

I made my personal correction seven or so years after Mike did. Like Mike I traded a big pay off for a good nights sleep. Yet, on paper I lost a little more than $11,000.00 yesterday. I had one stock that had a large run up over the last three or four months, as they were involved with a new Bit-coin scheme. I had decided to sell when it dropped to $50.00 a share, why be greedy? Well I got out yesterday at a decent per share profit. Then used 60% of the income from that sale to purchase more IBM, which is not a very exciting stock or company but is stable and pays a nice dividend.
 
Spent yesterday's chemo seesion kinda halfway watching the climb...

So... at the moment it's up 200+ for today but I got a chuckle out of a headline from the formerly respected source Reuters...

"Wall Street gains as volatility eases, Dow up over 200 points" :D

Volatility goes both ways, Hoss. :rolleyes:

Or maybe swings of 200-300-400 aren't "volatility" anymore...
 
I never quite understood how a market drop, (sell off) is considered a "bad" thing,... provided you are one of the sellers.
Doesn't a sharp sell-off just simply mean more folks than usual took their profit ?

But please, don't bother trying to explain it to me.
I learned a long time ago if I gave somebody my money cause he was smarter than me in knowing what to do with it; he was also smart enough to take it away from me.
 

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