Yemen too?
Ordered Departure at US Embassy Baghdad
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My son left Baghdad & is in Jordan till the 15th & then home.
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Amman is really nice!
Mostly DoS folks go out that way, DoD through Key West (Kuwait).
Mostly DoS folks go out that way, DoD through Key West (Kuwait).
FWIW, I think the Israeli strike will create leverage for the US as they attempt to negotiate monitoring and oversight designed to frustrate / delay Iran's quest for nuclear capability. I believe that Iran will use Nukes if they get the chance. They want us arguing over 1st world problems while they gain strength. Complacency will be our downfall.
charlie sherrill
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Same thing happened with Saddam and his Nuke stuff. Israel took them out while everyone else was just talking. This will be no different. Iran fought Iraq and Saddam for years while using children to run through minefields. That war ended in a stalemate because neither country was strong enough to overpower the other. Iran is not that strong...unless the get enough nukes and missiles. Israel probably just set them back a few decades....hopefully.
UncleEd
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I think most nuclear powers don't want to see more nations, whichever side they might claim to be on, get such weaponry. The world doesn't need more little crazy brothers play the game and even threaten so-called allies. I think China would abhor N. Korea get nukes and Russia deep down can't trust a Muslim nation such as Iran.
I wouldn't be surprised if Putin secretly is pulling for Israel's success in its strikes.Ditto Xi opposing N. Korea which might upset China's long term strategy by a rash act.
I wouldn't be surprised if Putin secretly is pulling for Israel's success in its strikes.Ditto Xi opposing N. Korea which might upset China's long term strategy by a rash act.
……. I think this time, there will be a difference……..
Mannlicher
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Evidently Israel was serious. Evidently the US knew what they were going to do. It has always been complicated over there.
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The strikes by Israel was a masterstroke. Took out quite a bit of the Iranian top command.
Iran was reported to be within days of having 10 to 15 nuclear devices up and running.
Big question will be what damage was done, if any, to those specific items. Not like with the reporting this wasn't telegraphed so was Iran prepared in hiding the material?
Second question will be how stable the replacement staff will be. The whole Devil you know thing.
How those 2 questions intertwine will be paramount in which direction this all goes.
Other factor is propaganda being put out to the Iranian people about the time is now to act on a change in regime. How successful Israel is in getting that out to the masses will be vital to going forward.
Iran was reported to be within days of having 10 to 15 nuclear devices up and running.
Big question will be what damage was done, if any, to those specific items. Not like with the reporting this wasn't telegraphed so was Iran prepared in hiding the material?
Second question will be how stable the replacement staff will be. The whole Devil you know thing.
How those 2 questions intertwine will be paramount in which direction this all goes.
Other factor is propaganda being put out to the Iranian people about the time is now to act on a change in regime. How successful Israel is in getting that out to the masses will be vital to going forward.
fiasconva
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News networks were showing that around 2PM EST that Iran was firing missiles into Tel Aviv at that moment. Looks like their retaliation has started. Now, to wait and see how the IDF retaliates for that. It ain't gonna be purty.
Isn't the UK almost majority muslim now anyway?
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Iran has not let up on missile strikes on Israel, some of which are connecting.
I suspect no country is as relieved as Ukraine that Iran won't be selling their missiles and drones to Russia while they're using them.
I suspect no country is as relieved as Ukraine that Iran won't be selling their missiles and drones to Russia while they're using them.
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Nope. 4.4% Muslim. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/united-kingdom/
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Mayor of London is mid eastern, I'm being nice….
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No. He was born in South London to British Pakistani parents. Pakistan is in South Asia.
How about the city of London?
Got to be MUCH higher.
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14.9% in 2021.
Probably a lot higher now.
Doesn't London have "No Go" muslim neighborhoods that the police are afraid to go into?
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No. I worked with several UK police of different types in Somalia. There is nowhere in all the UK they were afraid to go, including the most dangerous areas of Northern Ireland. Even there they are overwhelmingly unarmed.
Much of what folks learn about countries without going there is nonsense generated through movies. TV, social media, etc.
I have been to London many years ago. I hear it is not anywhere near the same culture/ languages spoken now as compared to way back then.
Traditional British culture is being dissolved by waves of unrestricted immigration. Kind of like here in the US.
UncleEd
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Uh oh, this thread may be veering off course. As usual.
Thinking Denzel's runaway taking that hard curve in Pennsylvania.
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Looks like the IDF is intercepting 90% of incoming Iranian missiles thus far; seems like 10 have hit Tel Aviv. https://www.understandingwar.org/ba...e-special-report-june-14-2025-evening-edition
Nothing has hit our folks in the region thus far.
And surprise, surprise; after starting a war, Israel wants us to help bail them out. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...campaign-against-iran-but-us-rejects-request/
Nothing has hit our folks in the region thus far.
And surprise, surprise; after starting a war, Israel wants us to help bail them out. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...campaign-against-iran-but-us-rejects-request/
I usually consider your comments reasonable and well thought out...until now...this one is neither.
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We don't have to agree.
Added: Look objectively at how well pre-emptive wars have worked in the region, especially for us, particularly Iraq. The sooner we have nothing to do with the unresolvable hatreds between 6 million Israelis and a billion Muslims of diverse sects in the Middle East South Asia, and North Africa, the better, IMO. And yes, I have worked extensively in the region.
Added: Look objectively at how well pre-emptive wars have worked in the region, especially for us, particularly Iraq. The sooner we have nothing to do with the unresolvable hatreds between 6 million Israelis and a billion Muslims of diverse sects in the Middle East South Asia, and North Africa, the better, IMO. And yes, I have worked extensively in the region.
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Avinu she-ba-shamayim
And when people shout death to America, take heed.
And when people shout death to America, take heed.
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YeshuaIsa53
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One simply cannot just sweep the dust from the door to an underground dungeon filled with hatred and expect a good outcome.
Attack our assets in the region and reap your reward.
