like the VW Beetle they a a cherished part of the past.. fondly remembered and kept by many as treasures.. so many around you will see them long into the future.. but even though they are still useful their time is gone..but not forgotten... RIP
Model 64 & 67 to be discontinued.
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kbm6893
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Bingo! I bet a 3" Model 64 with a round butt would sell very well. I know I'd have one.
Does S&W still make a K frame .22? If so, that is the only caliber in a K frame that will remain. That seems really sad. Model 18's are expensive guns. Can't imagine S&W selling enough of them to justify continuing to make them. I'm a gun guy and I never even owned one.
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I am quite pleased that S&W brought back the Centennial design (to the extent they did) in the 442/642 line. I wanted one while they were discontinued and carry one now. The new 610 (even with the "blemish") really tempted me. But frankly, that's about it for the newer revolvers. A late, lamented colleague carried a 2" 64 back when. They were good guns, but today he'd have a Shield or M&P Compact or something by (choke, gag) Glock or Springfield.
Darkenfast
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Face facts. Smith and Wesson is not a museum. They make guns that have to compete with offerings from other companies. The customers aren't buying .38 Special service revolvers because they are obsolete. The agencies making the big purchases aren't buying those revolvers because they are obsolete. Hobby enthusiasts ARE buying enough of the 686-type and its cousins to keep them in production. The J-frame market is hanging in there, but Kimber is making inroads with a 6-shot compact that is easier to shoot.
How much you like that old 10/64/67, etc. revolver you have, or carried for decades is, sadly, completely meaningless in the real world, because not enough of you are buying new ones: "I won't buy a new S&W, because it has (insert whatever feature here)!".
Smith and Wesson has responded to your feedback and will concentrate on customers who will keep them in business.
How much you like that old 10/64/67, etc. revolver you have, or carried for decades is, sadly, completely meaningless in the real world, because not enough of you are buying new ones: "I won't buy a new S&W, because it has (insert whatever feature here)!".
Smith and Wesson has responded to your feedback and will concentrate on customers who will keep them in business.
Any company's objective is to stay in business, and they will do what it takes.
I always get a kick out of people who never owned or ran a business telling others what they should do.
Yeah, they might be 100 or even a 1,000 people here who want things the way they were, but they are not paying the bills.
I always get a kick out of people who never owned or ran a business telling others what they should do.
Yeah, they might be 100 or even a 1,000 people here who want things the way they were, but they are not paying the bills.
CAJUNLAWYER
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To be quite honest I am surprised they are still being made. I see no reason whatsoever in today's times to make a dedicated .38 special revolver. No agency that I am aware of proscribes carry of anything other than .38 spl. In fact they probably want all 9mm. The day of the .38 special revolver as a realistic tool has passed. They are around for many other justifiable reasons, but this evolution is one of the reasons you have to look so hard to find a nice revolver chambered in .32 or a nice shotgun chambered in 16ga. Instead of bemoaning the loss of new production 63's and 67's rejoice in the fact that you can still buy older ones with relative ease and the new 66 currently available seems to cover hte bases for a K frame revolver capable of shooting .38's very nicely
kbm6893
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In the end it doesn't matter to me. I've got mine, ranging from 1946 to 1981. My kids will have them one day. Incidentally, they aren't all that interested in any of my plastic, arguably more sensible choices of firearms. For a gun to take to a gunfight, I agree they don't serve much of a purpose. But they are infinitely classier then a plastic gun. If S&W wants to kill them, so be it.
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That depresses me immensely.
jrm53
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I got my model 67 in the mid 90's, I still had the FFL and Gil Hebard sent out a flyer and it said S&W was dropping the 67 and he was closing them out, this had to have been 25 years ago. I would have to check but I got a great buy on it. Jeff
cowboy4evr
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A dedicated 38 special ? I wanted one for several yrs but just didn't see what I really wanted . Recently I walked into my LGS , the owner and goes in the back room and pulls out a gorgeous Colt Police Positive Special . It went home with me and I'm no long looking . It was increditably accurate , light weight and fits the hand like a glove . Built in the day when each piece was hand fitted . Regards Paul
Yep. All logic and "it's just business" points aside, it's still a bummer that these fine models are being retired. Thankfully, I picked up a very nice Model 67-1 back in May. Actually, I found two really nice ones back-to-back and now it turns out that I should have bought that second one as well.
Dang. 
Watch prices shoot up if this news is, in fact, correct. For an antique old fart like me with hearing loss, .38 Special is perfectly fine... and dear old Dad left me enough of his .38 wadcutter reloads to last me at least two lifetimes.
I was also fortunate enough to snag a 500 round RNL buy just before things went totally crazy. 
Makes me glad that I have my 64-2.
64 and 67 Discontinued
Not unexpected.
I considered getting a new 67 to go with all our old ones, but I suppose it's too late now.
Not unexpected.
I considered getting a new 67 to go with all our old ones, but I suppose it's too late now.
Don't know until you try. Ask the LGS to contact their supplier(s): it's worked more than once for me. Since the 64 and 67 are not popular, there could well be a sample or 2 lying around. Worth a shot.
I've never liked my 67-no dash purchased in 1973, even though it's the revolver I've shot the most. It's essentially retired now, though I use it to shoot perfect scores for my CCW renewals. I may try to pick up a modern 67 if they're still available. Then I'll have another 67 that I'll never like...
Kaaskop49
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Let's look at the news of late:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
S&W is a business. It has normal business problems like any business plus the additional business problems of selling politically incorrect products. Plus, in today's booming gun sales market, the buyers are mostly looking at plastic and S&W is in that market so that's where we should expect the company to focus.
Revolvers that are not easily concealable are dinosaurs. You like them, I like them, but the millenials don't, the newly frightened populace (by the corona virus, street riots, and crime) isn't into large revolvers, either.
Business is business. So it makes total sense to me, even if it's sad.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
S&W is a business. It has normal business problems like any business plus the additional business problems of selling politically incorrect products. Plus, in today's booming gun sales market, the buyers are mostly looking at plastic and S&W is in that market so that's where we should expect the company to focus.
Revolvers that are not easily concealable are dinosaurs. You like them, I like them, but the millenials don't, the newly frightened populace (by the corona virus, street riots, and crime) isn't into large revolvers, either.
Business is business. So it makes total sense to me, even if it's sad.
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They were probably being sold over seas to foreign agencies that wouldn't be outgunned by a 6 shot 38 special.
Perhaps contracts ran out and weren't renewed, who knows but I'm sure the demand over here isn't enough to keep them in production.
Perhaps contracts ran out and weren't renewed, who knows but I'm sure the demand over here isn't enough to keep them in production.
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Truth be told...... I carried a M60-7 up until 2 years ago. I could never justify a plastic 9mm around the same size (or larger & heavier) that only held a round or two more. THEN came the Sig P365 which was smaller, lighter, flatter and holds 10+1. Something that easily fit's in the pocket of my LL Bean Jeans with a DeSantis Nemesis pocket Holster and is lighter and less conspicuous than my J Frame was.
Along with the fact that the ballistics on modern 9mm ammo is fantastic, they worked out all the kinks on the P365 (bought mine post problematic era) and the fact that I can now practice with 100 - 150 rounds per session with no pain, is a huge plus. I dreaded practicing with my M60 and Buffalo Bore 158 grain +P's and I am not recoil sensitive what so ever!
All that said - of I were EVER to go back to a wheel gun, it would be a model made between 1960 and 1994
Along with the fact that the ballistics on modern 9mm ammo is fantastic, they worked out all the kinks on the P365 (bought mine post problematic era) and the fact that I can now practice with 100 - 150 rounds per session with no pain, is a huge plus. I dreaded practicing with my M60 and Buffalo Bore 158 grain +P's and I am not recoil sensitive what so ever!
All that said - of I were EVER to go back to a wheel gun, it would be a model made between 1960 and 1994
I bought this Model 67-5 about 3 and a half years ago. I had a local dealer order it for me, and specified that I only wanted one if he could find one with the one-piece barrel. He found it, and I bought it. I haven't fired it yet, but it appears to be a very well made gun.
Model 67-5
Model 67-5
jscott
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The market dictates what is sold and manufactured. Todays market, given medical and political uncertainties, is relatively new to this gun stuff. So, based on what ever source they listen to, the new and untrained consumer will go for the lightest, most round count, and the best priced. They have no understanding of what makes a SW revolver a gun fighter's gun, having NEVER been in a gun fight. Todays consumer buys a product that they hope never to use. The rest of us buy a product preparing to use it some day.
