Model 64 in .357
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Mismarked Model 65? Never heard of a Model 64 357 but the experts will soon chime in.
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Me either.
That's cool!
That's cool!
Will it chamber a 357 cartridge?
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TheHammer77
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Likely just a mis marked frame.
racer19j
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It's easy to put a 65 barrel and cylinder on a 64 frame. The frames are the same.
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A $100 factory letter will determine if genuine.
kbm6893
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Much like the 10-6 that the NYSP wanted in .357 Magnum, there was another state police, I think Ohio, that wanted a Model 64 in .357. Both were hits and the 10-6 in .357 became the Model 13, and the 64 in .357 became the Model 65. I don't recall the 64's in .357 being 3" barrel, though. Might be a Frankengun.
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750 made in 1973, 4" heavy barrel, prototype for for m-65 but were 64-1s (Standard Catalog of S&W). In my collection I have a M-10 in 357 magnum and a m-19 marked 38 special. Both model runs were special order.
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The .357 model 64s were made for the Oklahoma (edit to change to) Highway Patrol.
The gun in question has an unpinned barrel, so is a later production model 64-3 and not one of the 1973 contract guns with a 3" barrel installed. Likely a barrel/cylinder swap as mentioned above.
The gun in question has an unpinned barrel, so is a later production model 64-3 and not one of the 1973 contract guns with a 3" barrel installed. Likely a barrel/cylinder swap as mentioned above.
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I was hoping this wasn't a modified revolver. The finish and wear on the barrel matches the frame. If it's been swapped it must've been quite a few years ago.
I appreciate the ideas, opinions and information. I'll update the OP with a SN.
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I appreciate the ideas, opinions and information. I'll update the OP with a SN.
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S&WshooterFIN
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SCSW 4th edition:
OHP Commemorative: Model 64-1,
750 made in 1973, 4" Heavy Barrel, Chambered .357 Magnum as prototype for the Model 65, at least some reported marked with OHP badge/seal on right side.
64-1 1972 4" Heavy barrel introduction, made for OHP champered .357 Magnum which became the M-65
-1973 Heavy barrel only
About 1974 the 4" version was available in heavy barrel only with 3-inch vesrion also available on squore butt frame with a smooth backstrap.
OHP Commemorative: Model 64-1,
750 made in 1973, 4" Heavy Barrel, Chambered .357 Magnum as prototype for the Model 65, at least some reported marked with OHP badge/seal on right side.
64-1 1972 4" Heavy barrel introduction, made for OHP champered .357 Magnum which became the M-65
-1973 Heavy barrel only
About 1974 the 4" version was available in heavy barrel only with 3-inch vesrion also available on squore butt frame with a smooth backstrap.
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As alteady mentioned, the Model 54 was built in 357 Magnum before the Model 65 existed
I own one and have handled two others, all of the one I have seen are 4"
As you can see from the image above, both the barrel and sideplate are marked for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol
I bought mine not realizing the scarcity back in 2000 for a Very reasonable price.
Based on the serial number mine was manufactured in 1974
I own one and have handled two others, all of the one I have seen are 4"
As you can see from the image above, both the barrel and sideplate are marked for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol
I bought mine not realizing the scarcity back in 2000 for a Very reasonable price.
Based on the serial number mine was manufactured in 1974
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TheHammer77
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So most likely a modified 64? I sure don't want to invest another $100 to find that out if there were no 64-3's chambered in .357.
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Based on the other thread and what you paid for it shoot it carry it and enjoy. It is either a mismarked 65 or a 64 with replacement barrel and cylinder ( my money would be on a mis mark frame ) either way doesn't really affect value much unless you run into a collector that is into factory error guns and you want to double your money.
I seriously doubt it would letter as some rare production run so I don't think the letter is worth it. Then again, you purchased this gun for about 1/2 the going rate for a 3" K, so ?
I seriously doubt it would letter as some rare production run so I don't think the letter is worth it. Then again, you purchased this gun for about 1/2 the going rate for a 3" K, so ?
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Would the cylinder fit a 64
Are the 64 and 65 cylinders the same length? If not, you could not put a 65 cylinder in a 64 frame.
Are the 64 and 65 cylinders the same length? If not, you could not put a 65 cylinder in a 64 frame.
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snowman.45
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I purchased a few of the J&G Gun Sales M-10 barrel-less frames a couple years ago. For one of them, I was able to find a M65 3" barrel and .357 cylinder. I rebuilt the gun using the magnum barrel and cylinder since the frames are all the same according to my research. I then sent the gun off to Wright's Armory in Mesa and had the gun refinished in their QPQ finish. I came out great and shoots equally well.
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Yes, the .38 Special K frame cylinder is shorter than the .357, so changing from the former to the latter caliber requires installing the barrel with the shorter .357 length forcing cone to have a correct barrel/cylinder gap.
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