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[MichiganScott]

I tried the 3 rounds in 4 guns as stated above.

If a primer does not ignite the first time it is struck, the primer pellet may shatter. When that happens, it may never ignite. Light hits and regular hits will look the same unless the hit is extremely light.

Did you check the strain screw on the Night Guard? Was there debris under the ejector star? How was the ammo stored? The cases look to be awfully deep in the tray. Is that the original tray?

I agree that the ammo manufacturer should have been contacted prior to the original post simply because the problem may not be the ammo.

 

[old&slow]

A few years ago, I was shooting with factory reps.. They were suppling the firearms and ammo. One round from a factory five pack of 00 buck went puff rather than bang. I saw the wad dribble about 5 foot out the end of the barrel.

If I would have been in a bad situation,,, don't think I would have been very happy.

Never was my favorite brand of ammo anyway. But, I'm pretty sure I would not buy that brand of ammo for serious social occasions.

 

[BigCityChief]

Every manufacturer produces some lemons. Call BB, return the unexpended ammo, and enjoy the box(es) I'm certain they'll send you in return.


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[Arik]

Never tried BB so I'm not sticking up for them or anything. That being said every manufacturer, EVERY, has had problems of one kind or another. It's impossible to be in business many years making millions of bullets and not have a problem somewhere. For all you know those 3 could have been the only ones.

If you go by Internet posts then I'm sorry to tell you that you should get rid of ALL your ammo because if you search any manufacturer you will find nothing buy problems because that's all that people post about. I have shot thousands of rounds of WWB without a problem and yet people post about all their problems with the WWB.

Also while you're at it sell your night guard. I just Googled night guard problems and got page after page of people having problems

 

[Gunhacker]

I am not rich, just smart with my money and have no bills outside of my mortgage, but I have a lot of toys....

I'm willing to speculate that tailgaters aren't much of a problem for you, are they?

But back to the topic at hand.. defective ammo/primers.

It seems like there's more occurrences of that these days period, despite who makes the ammo. I was at the range a few weeks ago shooting American Eagle (Federal) .327 Federal Magnum, in the one box of 50 I had 4 fail to fires. Federal was very apologetic and happy to be informed of the problem, and made it right quickly.

They know with the existence of social media and online forums that bad PR can spread quickly and they usually want to nip that in the bud from occurring.

 

[Gunhacker]

The cases look to be awfully deep in the tray. Is that the original tray?

BB uses the same packaging for all of the ammo they produce... if you think that looks funny, you ought to see what .32 H&R magnum & 10mm looks like sitting the those cavernous compartments.

 

[Shorty 45 MK2]

BB uses the same packaging for all of the ammo they produce... if you think that looks funny, you ought to see what .32 H&R magnum & 10mm looks like sitting the those cavernous compartments.

I think the .380 looks cute in them.

 

[Shorty 45 MK2]

I'd wait to hear back from them before saying you're never using them again.

I've had ammo issues with PDX and GD, and both times the manufactures reimbursed me for the ammo.

 

[BearBio]

Think of it this way: If you had those in a five-shot revolver and a serious situation came up, the odds are 60% that you'd be DEAD! Nice to know my widow MIGHT get replacement ammo (No guarantee it would be any better).

My life is worth more than Sundles pocket book! I'd lose all confidence, too.

PS my wife tried the 380 and 9mm in her EDC and we (both of us) had too many failures-to-feed. I stopped using it in my 38 Super for that reason. Life is too short!

 

[Gunhacker]

I think the .380 looks cute in them.

Yeah, LOL I can image.... kind of the way food packaging is being done, like breakfast cereal. Box on shelf... 14" tall (looks impressive), but box is only 1-1/2" deep. Open box, top of bag is sitting 4" below the top of the box... remove bag... product inside bag only fills it 1/2 way.

Sorry for the thread drift, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[nicky4968]

Yeah, that's not good.

It does validate my belief that any ammo for defense, even in a revolver, needs to be throughly tested before being trusted.

I feel 50 rounds is the minimum in a revolver before I trust a load. 100 is even better. Any problems with the ammo should reveal themselves, POI can be tested, and trust can be built.

Honestly, I would rather carry a revolver loaded with 158 LRN from a tested lot that hits to POA, than carry an untested wonder bullet.

Exactly what I carry and why.

 

[HarrishMasher]

If a primer does not ignite the first time it is struck, the primer pellet may shatter. When that happens, it may never ignite. Light hits and regular hits will look the same unless the hit is extremely light.

Did you check the strain screw on the Night Guard? Was there debris under the ejector star? How was the ammo stored? The cases look to be awfully deep in the tray. Is that the original tray?

I agree that the ammo manufacturer should have been contacted prior to the original post simply because the problem may not be the ammo.

Gun is regularly cleaned and lubed. It is new. Bought it unfired a few months back. A total of 700 rounds fired.

I had five brands of ammo with me today. I ran 150 rounds through the Night Guard of 5 brands of ammo. Zero problems except for the Buffalo Bore. BB also failed in my 686PC and 386PD. Failure to ignite in 3 different guns! Pretty sure it is the BB ammo. Is that really not clear that it is the BB ammo?

Original tray. Stored in my ammo locker with thousands of other rounds of ammo. Stored in it's original box. I have had the box for two months.

Problem is 100% the ammo. Without a doubt. I have been shooting weekly for 20 years and have owned 100s of firearms. If I suspected for one second it was something other than the ammo I would not have written this post.

 

[LimaCharlie]

I have been buying, stocking, and shooting thousands of rounds of Buffalo Bore 10mm, .44 magnum, and 460 S&W magnum ammo for many years with zero issues. They will make it right.

 

[eb07]

I have been buying, stocking, and shooting thousands of rounds of Buffalo Bore 10mm, .44 magnum, and 460 S&W magnum ammo for many years with zero issues. They will make it right.

another "rich guy"

10mm, 380, 44, and 357 here

 

[rajbcpa]

...been reloading for decades... last week I had a 45 colt go click not bang....

..... and that is why I prefer to carry a revolver.

 

[jrandyh]

I would be very upset. Ammo that you pay a lot of money for and depend on it with your life should be thoroughly tested by the company. Every lot of primers they buy as well as powder. I have been shooting 40 years and can count on one hand the number of bad rounds I have had and that includes factory reloaded ammo also. I taught LE firearms and rarely saw an ammo issue. You don't get a second chance in a gunfight. Most every case of ammo malfunction in a revolver I have seen is people's over use of penetrating oils like WD40.
JR

 

[Watchdog]

I tried to call Able Ammo to cancel my order from yesterday, but it already shipped. I will have to return it when I receive it. I also left Buffalo Bore a voicemail and emailed them as well.

Why bother? Take the stuff to the range. Fire off the rounds that will fire. Properly dispose of the ones that don't. Switch to a different ammo and forget about it.

May as well face facts, though. No manufacturer in the known universe is going to give you a guarantee of 100% reliability. You can get a dud with any brand of ammo (including your own), and you'll never know it until you pull the trigger. If you're in a self defense situation, hopefully you're firing a revolver and the next fast trigger pull will bring up a live round.

 

[Watchdog]

I would be very upset. Ammo that you pay a lot of money for and depend on it with your life should be thoroughly tested by the company. Every lot of primers they buy as well as powder.

I'm pretty confident most major ammo makers test their ammo, but they can't test every single round, now can they? Ammo manufacturing is pretty much an automated process. They may test every tenth round, or x-number of rounds from every batch, but that's as far as they'll go. Ditto for primer and powder makers. They are not going to visually inspect every single round that comes off the line.

It's sort of like loading your own ammo. Unless you're a match shooter, or loading up maybe 20 special rounds for a hunt, you're not going to test every little thing. If you're using a powder measure, you might check every 10th throw, or maybe even every 5th one...but if you're gonna weigh each charge, no point in using a powder measure, is there?

 

[HarrishMasher]

I like their ammo and never had an issue with it.

If you wanna part with your current BB inventory I'll be happy to take it.

Please PM me, I will gladly sell you what I have left. Not the box with the bad primers though.

I have 33 rounds of BBAC-20E left. 125gr low flash. It is supposed to have Gold Dot bullets, but it is loaded with some mystery bullet.

I have 40 rounds of 19H that will arrive Tuesday. That is the 125gr Barnes.

$1.25 per round sound fair. Shipping on me.

 

[HarrishMasher]

I would be very upset. Ammo that you pay a lot of money for and depend on it with your life should be thoroughly tested by the company. Every lot of primers they buy as well as powder. I have been shooting 40 years and can count on one hand the number of bad rounds I have had and that includes factory reloaded ammo also. I taught LE firearms and rarely saw an ammo issue. You don't get a second chance in a gunfight. Most every case of ammo malfunction in a revolver I have seen is people's over use of penetrating oils like WD40.
JR

Exactly. I would expect to get what I pay for. This ammo is obscenely expensive, and should be tested beyond what others do. For such a small company, there sure are a lot of bad experiences out there on the net.