More Ammunition Shortages?

I'm part of the shortage problem. At one time if I was going shooting I'd stop on the way to the range and pick up a couple boxes of ammo or stop on the way home to replace what I'd fired. Now rather than buy a box or brick of ammo at a time, I go online and buy a case. Brick and mortar stores I tend to treat the same if they are running a sale, rather than pick up a box or two I'll get a case. Doesn't take many people like me and we have shortages.
 
Don't believe every stupid thing you hear third hand from some assembly line employee. If you think ammo manufacturers are just sitting on stockpiles of ammo, you don't understand how businesses work.

I asked a gun store employee if they held back a certain amount of ammo for better prices in the future. His reply was we aren't in the ammo storage business. You have us confused with the military.
 
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Ammo Shortage?

Today I cruised down to Cabelas.
Nothing special, just a visit.
I looked at the Handguns, no changes there.
Turned and looked at the ammo.
Lately I’ve bought usually 200 rounds of the House 9mm Ball on just about every visit. Usually lately they’ve had plenty. Can’t find any.
A nice Young Guy is stocking ammo.
So I ask him. No Joy, Cowboy. We ain’t got none of that.
What do you have? A small amount of high dollar 9mm.
We sold out of ball a few days ago and haven’t gotten any since.
Nice guy, his name was - Hunter!
So after I got home I went online and ordered 500 rounds of 9mm from Cabela’s . They claim they have it???
Time will tell.
 
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I haven’t noticed any shortage in southeast Oklahoma. And for that matter I went in an Academy near Nashville, TN today and they had no shortage. The Bass Pro Shops in Nashville was pretty well stocked and has lots of primers too.
 
I was getting remanufactured. 223 online for around 33 cents each and overnight the price jumped up to 50 cents each!
Fortunately I think I have enough of that now and I also have a .22LR conversion unit for that rifle so I bought more of that while it's still reasonably priced.
I probably have enough to last me until I turn 135 so I'm comfortable. :)
 
Certainly it has occurred to at least a few that this thread is like watching "The View"; lots of rumors and baseless opinions, with YouTube thrown in to bring the credibility level even lower. Many similar threads in the last few years.
 
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I just added to the potential of a shortage by ordering a case of American Eagle 147 grain FMJ 9x19mm. This is my preferred practice load as it pairs well with my preferred carry load, the Federal 147 grain HST. I was able to save $6.36 per 50 by ordering versus buying locally.
 
Today I cruised down to Cabelas.
Nothing special, just a visit.
I looked at the Handguns, no changes there.
Turned and looked at the ammo.
Lately I’ve bought usually 200 rounds of the House 9mm Ball on just about every visit. Usually lately they’ve had plenty. Can’t find any.
A nice Young Guy is stocking ammo.
So I ask him. No Joy, Cowboy. We ain’t got none of that.
What do you have? A small amount of high dollar 9mm.
We sold out of ball a few days ago and haven’t gotten any since.
Nice guy, his name was - Hunter!
So after I got home I went online and ordered 500 rounds of 9mm from Cabela’s . They claim they have it???
Time will tell.

Glitches in the supply chain are the norm post COVID. It all seems to hinge around the shortage of truck drivers. My local Smith's grocery (Kroger to many) has times when it is short of stuff (truck didn't make it or is running late) and others when there is a glut, with non-perishable stuff on pallets on the shop floor waiting for the shelves to empty a bit.

Major thread drift alert! :) My local Albertson's ran into the latter issue with soda last week. Buy four 12-packs for $13.88, mix and match. Weird thing was you had to buy four to get the deal, but the limit was four per transaction. Guess they didn't want the food truck folks raiding the place. It's as cheap as I'd seen soda in more than a year. I made multiple visits and am stocked up for a while.
 
I hit the Kissimmee Academy on the way home earlier. They had at least 20 cases of Winchester M855 "green tip" on the shelf, take all you want $15/20. I bought 10 boxes of Hornady 55 gr for an OTD of $140(12.99/20+tax), which is less than Target Sports with the 8% discount. The gun/ammo dept was packed unlike the other 95% of the store. Nobody have a job anymore? Joe
 
I haven’t noticed any shortage in southeast Oklahoma. And for that matter I went in an Academy near Nashville, TN today and they had no shortage. The Bass Pro Shops in Nashville was pretty well stocked and has lots of primers too.
Do they have Large Rifle Primers?
That is the ONE reloading component I have been unable to find the last couple of years....
Certainly it has occurred to at least a few that this thread is like watching "The View"; lots of rumors and baseless opinions, with YouTube thrown in to bring the credibility level even lower. Many similar threads in the last few years.
Yeah, I agree with your point - until it comes to LRPs.
They are absolutely UNOBTANIUM. Not a baseless opinion, but an actual FACT.
Show me I'm wrong. Where can I buy them? Even at the ridiculous price of $100 a brick? As far as I have been able to find they are simply not available for sale ANYWHERE at any price.
A search for "large rifle primers" turns up NO results on GunBroker.
PLEASE prove me wrong - I'd love to find someone with some for sale...
 
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Was at a LGS today. I asked the guy behind the counter about ammo shortages. He said yes, their last order of Win. 5.56 was cancelled, and they were only selling 2 boxes per customer. But they have a good bit of it. Still had lots of 9mm and everything else. Even got a box of .06 for the give away price of $26.95!
 
Do they have Large Rifle Primers?
That is the ONE reloading component I have been unable to find the last couple of years....

Yeah, I agree with your point - until it comes to LRPs.
They are absolutely UNOBTANIUM. Not a baseless opinion, but an actual FACT.
Show me I'm wrong. Where can I buy them? Even at the ridiculous price of $100 a brick? As far as I have been able to find they are simply not available for sale ANYWHERE at any price.
A search for "large rifle primers" turns up NO results on GunBroker.
PLEASE prove me wrong - I'd love to find someone with some for sale...

Ginex right here ...

https://lohmanarms.com/product/ginex-large-rifle-primers/
 
Show me I'm wrong. Where can I buy them? Even at the ridiculous price of $100 a brick? As far as I have been able to find they are simply not available for sale ANYWHERE at any price.
A search for "large rifle primers" turns up NO results on GunBroker.
PLEASE prove me wrong - I'd love to find someone with some for sale...

Two weeks ago I happened to stop in a large local chain called Vances Outdoors. I was looking for some .223 that was listed as on sale @$9 a box, sold out. But I did find Winchester LRP for $80/1000. Hated paying the price but like you that's the first I've seen since before COVID.
 
The thing I noticed at some of the shops around here is that alot of them do not sell anything for reloading anymore. Not empty shelves, no place for reloading. I got a brick of useless to me large pistol primers and would prefer to have a brick of small pistol primers for revolvers. I am quite happy to roll my own wheelie practice ammo except I now have an aversion to loading autopistol rounds. Got out of the habit from chasing brass in the weeds. Losing alot. And for most of the time over the years at least 9MM was cheap enough that it was not worth the bother.
 
A couple of months ago, I saw some LR match primers on sale for ~$180/1000. I passed, thinking the sight was a hint of increasing supply. Again, I was wrong.

Maybe if the manufacturers decided to use small rifle primers in the non-magnum/humungous case calibers? Got some .308 brass that does.
 
With the sale of Vista Outdoors sporting division, which includes major ammo companies like Remington, Federal, CCI, to the overseas Czechoslovak Group (CSG), that will add to the perceived ammo shortage and buying frenzy.
 
Don't believe every stupid thing you hear third hand from some assembly line employee. If you think ammo manufacturers are just sitting on stockpiles of ammo, you don't understand how businesses work.

Every time I hear this "evil ammo company" thesis I try to explain that you can't make money paying for components and labor and then sit on the production. I worked in manufacturing my entire life. It doesn't work! Especially now that interest rates are up. If they were so greedy, and that even worked (which it doesn't), why decrease your profit by quadrupling the management staff? Those guys get laid off too, all the time.

I hope the video is true. Because if it is, they've misinterpreted the meaning. It means the supply chain for pistol ammo is full again. Judging by all the $11.95 ("it'll never be below $20 again!") 9mm ammo I'm seeing flyers for that might be true. I respect manufacturing employees, I was one before I went into management. If they had a clue about how to manage a manufacturing operation they wouldn't still be on the floor.

If I'm right, primer prices should be coming down a little by spring.
 
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If you control the ammo you can disarm a population, same as taking the weapon.


Try and find calibers like 32-20, 25-35, and it is just not being made any more.
 
If you control the ammo you can disarm a population, same as taking the weapon.


Try and find calibers like 32-20, 25-35, and it is just not being made any more.

No one is trying to disarm you.

The cartridges you mention are not popular. The ammo companies prefer to produce cartridges that are popular and sell well. Your choices and several others are still produced but maybe only one big batch every few years. Same with brass for these cartridges. I've dealt with this for many years; just buy plenty when they are available.
 
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