More Ammunition Shortages?

[BRL40]

...I am quite happy to roll my own wheelie practice ammo except I now have an aversion to loading autopistol rounds. Got out of the habit from chasing brass in the weeds. Losing alot...

I lost exactly ONE .40 caliber case and spent more time looking for that one stupid case than I did shooting that whole day...never found it.

I realized how ridiculous I was being and my solution was to get a pop-up beach tent to catch the brass.

Sure it's still ridiculous but at the end of the day all my brass is easily retrieved and available for reloading.

 

[gnappi]

Not to be a smart butt, but in all seriousness I think warning posts like this work against us to get people stirred up and accelerate the hoarding that otherwise may not give it much thought.

I agree.

That said, I'm TOTALLY insulated from whatever foolishness comes about in the way of ammo / component availability due to bad weather, crime sprees, govt. orders, foreign wars etc. because over time I acquired everything I need.

Everyone else should already be in a like state or just stop crabbing about not having ammo and supplies.

 

[BC38]

I agree.

That said, I'm TOTALLY insulated from whatever foolishness comes about in the way of ammo / component availability due to bad weather, crime sprees, govt. orders, foreign wars etc. because over time I acquired everything I need.

Everyone else should already be in a like state or just stop crabbing about not having ammo and supplies.

As a long-time enthusiast I'm in the same position as you.
But what about newer guys? Not everyone has the luxury of having been stockpiling for years...
I just can't buy into a "let them eat cake" attitude.
Now if someone has been shooting for decades and hasn't laid in a good supply by now, sure, they made their own bed.
But people who have only been in the shooting sports for 3 years or less, they have never had the opportunity to stock up when it was plentiful and cheap, they've never experienced anything OTHER than these shortages.
Those are the folks I feel bad for...

 

[JamesWP]

Do they have Large Rifle Primers?
That is the ONE reloading component I have been unable to find the last couple of years....

Yeah, I agree with your point - until it comes to LRPs.
They are absolutely UNOBTANIUM. Not a baseless opinion, but an actual FACT.
Show me I'm wrong. Where can I buy them? Even at the ridiculous price of $100 a brick? As far as I have been able to find they are simply not available for sale ANYWHERE at any price.
A search for "large rifle primers" turns up NO results on GunBroker.
PLEASE prove me wrong - I'd love to find someone with some for sale...

I have bought them recently at House of Guns in Boswell, OK and TP Outdoors in West Monroe Louisiana. They are there here and there if you look. I think at HOG they were $11/100 and TP $15/100.

 

[pharmer]

........But people who have only been in the shooting sports for 3 years or less, they have never had the opportunity to stock up when it was plentiful and cheap, they've never experienced anything OTHER than these shortages. Those are the folks I feel bad for...

Like us, newbies need to realize these are the "good old days."
1) Examples; today 5.56 M193 55gr Privi is $11/box 20, 9mm is $13/box 50.
Get it while you can. $275 for 500 5.56 on your doorstep, $260/K 9mm ball.
2) "Bulk ammo" shipped to the house will go away, maybe soon. There are critters awake nights plotting and sharpening their axes. Some states already need ammo to go through an FFL.
Get after it. Joe

 

[BC38]

I have bought them recently at House of Guns in Boswell, OK and TP Outdoors in West Monroe Louisiana. They are there here and there if you look. I think at HOG they were $11/100 and TP $15/100.

Good on ya' mate! Although I have been looking pretty hard, I have to admit I haven't been checking every out of the way regional supplier and mom & pop shop in OK and LA.

 

[local_dirt]

This is JMHO and that is all. I remember 2008. My daughters wanted to shoot their little Ruger rifles. It was all I could do to get enough ammo to let them shoot. Never had previously had problems buying plain Jane .22 LR, much less .38 Special, .45 ACP and certainly not 9mm. FMJ rifle ammo went crazy. I remember. So ... over the years I've made it a practice to buy ammo when it was affordable. Right now, if you can find affordable 9mm, .22 LR ... buy it. It doesn't eat. It doesn't rot. Buy it. In the recent go round of short supply and high prices, I had church members who were in the same boat as I was in back in 2008. I gave them ammo. I gave ammo to men I saw at the range w/ their children/grandchildren. Hurts to see someone having to basically ration ammo to a child. Stinks. The smile on that child's face ... and the response of the parent is worth the price paid. My grandchildren live up north and have no opportunities to go shooting. When they get down here to Ga., they have opportunities! We use a Bugassault on the back porch. Salt is cheap. Fun to shoot bugs, leaves, etc. Later, when they are old enough ... there are two Red Ryder's waiting ... and two 10-22's. So ... I'm keeping an eye out for salt ... and BB's ... and .22 LR!!! And, for my son-in-law ... I'm also watching for .38 Specials and 9mm. Sincerely. bruce.

I hear ya. I have some really nice great shooting .22s. Tony Kidd 10/22, CZ 452 American, Ruger MK II and a Mark III with a TacSol upper set up for a suppressor. Whenever I see youngsters at the range when I'm shooting, I always ask them if they want to shoot my guns. The looks on their faces when I ask them that question and as they're shooting bugholes makes for an absolutely incredible day, for them and me.

 

[Skeet 028]

I happen to have about 25,000 22s. Want to find a real nice 22 semi auto but I digress. I hardly shoot the 9mm and am buying what I can...at mostly reasonable prices. Everything else I can make with my reloading supplies which I continue to buy. Got a thousand CCI BR 2 LRPs yesterday for 40 bucks at an estate sale near Billings. I continue to buy any useable supplies I come up on....sure can't hurt and so what if someone calls you a hoarder...It ain't so if you intend to use em

 

[BC38]

...Got a thousand CCI BR 2 LRPs yesterday for 40 bucks at an estate sale near Billings...

Heck yeah! At that price I'll take 10,000 of them...

 

[old pipefitter]

And some guy in Europe just bought Vista outdoors ( federal cartridge, CCI, Speer, and a few others) Start buying

 

[Bald1]

I bought what I think is a lifetime supply of primers and powder when it looked like there would be a President Dukakis. Thankfully that never happened but I still have a lot left that was purchased in 1988.

When did it ever look like “Dukakis” would win????? Never had a chance

 

[AJ]

Bottom line is buy what you can when you can. Maybe reduce your shooting if necessary to save on ammo. I only buy components (from estate sales) and scrap lead (to cast bullets), this has pretty much insulated me from the shortages.

 

[LostintheOzone]

As a long-time enthusiast I'm in the same position as you.
But what about newer guys? Not everyone has the luxury of having been stockpiling for years...
I just can't buy into a "let them eat cake" attitude.
Now if someone has been shooting for decades and hasn't laid in a good supply by now, sure, they made their own bed.
But people who have only been in the shooting sports for 3 years or less, they have never had the opportunity to stock up when it was plentiful and cheap, they've never experienced anything OTHER than these shortages.
Those are the folks I feel bad for...

It's like gas prices for a lot of folks. You just buy what you need from month to month and hope you have enough money to pay the bills. Inflation is taking a big chunk out of everyone's paycheck these days.

It's true that ammo isn't perishable over a few years so it can be stockpiled but the fact remains that it isn't a necessity like food, rent/mortgage, insurance and fuel.

Mostly, I think that people who have this let-them-eat-cake attitude have more disposable income than the family who lives on 75K/yr. which is the median income.

 

[max503]

Nothing wrong with discussing shortages and stocking up. The problem is the hoarders with too much money who buy skids-full of ammo to fill their bunkers with.

 

[rockquarry]

Nothing wrong with discussing shortages and stocking up. The problem is the hoarders with too much money who buy skids-full of ammo to fill their bunkers with.

I don't know that anyone can have too much money, but are you actually aware of someone who has bought skids of ammo for bunkers? I would guess if this has happened the numbers of such persons would be too small to have any real effect on supplies, but I could certainly be wrong.

 

[AJ]

I don't know that anyone can have too much money, but are you actually aware of someone who has bought skids of ammo for bunkers? I would guess if this has happened the numbers of such persons would be too small to have any real effect on supplies, but I could certainly be wrong.

Bought skids/pallets.....No. Has skids/pallets.....Yes. Just bought over a 30 year period.

 

[rockquarry]

Bought skids/pallets.....No. Has skids/pallets.....Yes. Just bought over a 30 year period.

Sounds like an isolated instance of one person buying ammo over thirty years. How could that have any effect on the ammo supply market?

 

[Skeet 028]

I Was Robbed. There were only 994 primers in the lot of BR2s...Six were missing.surprisingly the only other thing they had for reloading was an old Pacific scale you had to have weights to set the weight for...25 dollars no weights. I used one of them way back in the 50s

 

[tops]

I have always shot more .22 RFs than CF and the last few years I have really raised my .22 RF count. A .22 will punch a hole in paper and kill a tin can just as good as a .357M or a 30-06 and a .22 is cheaper and more plentiful than the primer for a centerfire cartridge. Larry

 

[AJ]

Sounds like an isolated instance of one person buying ammo over thirty years. How could that have any effect on the ammo supply market?

It does not. But he is well stocked! Ammo shortages will not affect him or his heirs for many years.