I agree.
Was watching old movies the other day and I think it was magnum force where DH was holding the same way while on the range, so maybe more for dramatic effect than marksmanship???
Movie jaws Smith and Wesson revolver question
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Was watching old movies the other day and I think it was magnum force where DH was holding the same way while on the range, so maybe more for dramatic effect than marksmanship???
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I've read that most actors know so little about guns that they aren't handed one until just before a scene is shot. This is for safety and to keep them from damaging a gun.
Others are sent for a basic course at some place like Gunsite, but only if a role demands more expertise. In the 1950's, some cowboy actors were coached by Arvo Ojala. I read that some playing SEALS in the movie about Marcus Luttrell were taught by real Navy personnel.
Now, with Hollywood being so anti-gun, I doubt we'll see many actors being gun savvy in real life. The days of Clark Gable, Maj. Audie Murphy, MH and Jimmy Stewart are past, I guess.
When I saw the final movie of the Fifty Shades trilogy, I was surprised that Anastasia (Dakota Johnson) even knew how to operate that S&W Model 36 that her man's nut former lover had left in his office when she was arrested for her home invasion. She did hit her former boss, Jack (the kidnapper), but only in the leg. But a real Anastasia would do well to manage that.
I was on the Official New Line Cinema board about, The Lost World. I learned that the prop guns were subbed for in scenes when they weren't fired by resin or plastic cast replicas. When Lord Roxton dropped his .416 Rigby on a cave floor, not only did actor Will Snow drop it from too high instead of just laying it down, you could hear the sound it made on the cave floor. Def. the replica rifle! No wonder they didn't trust Snow with the real one when they didn't have to.
Others are sent for a basic course at some place like Gunsite, but only if a role demands more expertise. In the 1950's, some cowboy actors were coached by Arvo Ojala. I read that some playing SEALS in the movie about Marcus Luttrell were taught by real Navy personnel.
Now, with Hollywood being so anti-gun, I doubt we'll see many actors being gun savvy in real life. The days of Clark Gable, Maj. Audie Murphy, MH and Jimmy Stewart are past, I guess.
When I saw the final movie of the Fifty Shades trilogy, I was surprised that Anastasia (Dakota Johnson) even knew how to operate that S&W Model 36 that her man's nut former lover had left in his office when she was arrested for her home invasion. She did hit her former boss, Jack (the kidnapper), but only in the leg. But a real Anastasia would do well to manage that.
I was on the Official New Line Cinema board about, The Lost World. I learned that the prop guns were subbed for in scenes when they weren't fired by resin or plastic cast replicas. When Lord Roxton dropped his .416 Rigby on a cave floor, not only did actor Will Snow drop it from too high instead of just laying it down, you could hear the sound it made on the cave floor. Def. the replica rifle! No wonder they didn't trust Snow with the real one when they didn't have to.
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OMG....Mine must have been on that movie set.
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MightyMouse4466
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My only 2 revolver failures ever!
S&W 629, very cheap factory reload ammo, projectile moved forward in it's case locking up the cylinder, could not rotate or open cylinder, complete failure to function, pushed pushed bullet back into case, fired round, functioned perfectly after that.
Colt Trooper MK3, when I cleaned it I used grease on where the cylinder rotates on the crane, after 50 rounds of .38 special dirty range ammo, it would not rotate in double or single action without manually rotating the cylinder, and that eventually quit working, locked up solid. Cleaned it & oiled it, worked flawlessly.
Don't use grease on rotating parts, and Dont carry re-loads, unless you trust your own re-loads.
S&W 629, very cheap factory reload ammo, projectile moved forward in it's case locking up the cylinder, could not rotate or open cylinder, complete failure to function, pushed pushed bullet back into case, fired round, functioned perfectly after that.
Colt Trooper MK3, when I cleaned it I used grease on where the cylinder rotates on the crane, after 50 rounds of .38 special dirty range ammo, it would not rotate in double or single action without manually rotating the cylinder, and that eventually quit working, locked up solid. Cleaned it & oiled it, worked flawlessly.
Don't use grease on rotating parts, and Dont carry re-loads, unless you trust your own re-loads.
I read the book.
There was something in there about one of her relations, Father, Uncle maybe, teaching her about guns and shooting and she was surprised that her dominator, lover, fiancé, boyfriend was so scared of a simple tool. I guess that part did not translate to the movie.
And look, just so's ya'll will know. I had heard about the books, like everyone else, but did not intend to read it. But I found out my ex gave a copy to my daughter and she read it. Doesn't matter that she was over 20 at the time. I wanted to know what was in it.
Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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If you look at some of the scenes in Dirty Harry and some of the promotional materials you see Clint Eastwood doing the same thing. Ideas on what's the best way to hold and shoot a handgun change and fad tacticool techniques come and go.
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I read the book.
I guess that part did not translate to the movie.
And look, just so's ya'll will know. I had heard about the books, like everyone else, but did not intend to read it. But I found out my ex gave a copy to my daughter and she read it. Doesn't matter that she was over 20 at the time. I wanted to know what was in it.
Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Presumably, you're referring to the Fifty Shades of Grey books. Doesn't seem as if you're referencing what I wrote about the Lost World prop guns.
Actually, I haven't read the books. I know a girl Online who said they're greatly overhyped and not as naughty as inferred. So, I didn't know that Christian Grey had an aversion to guns. He never wore one in the three movies, but has armed bodyguards: Taylor and that other couple in the third film... As a billionaire, he had cause for security.
Because I haven't read the books, I didn't know that Ana knew anything about guns. She was a recent college grad living in Seattle, a liberal city, and all her friends seemed liberal and non-gun people. And the author is English! So, I'm pleased and surprised that an uncle, etc. taught Ana.
The movies are very impressive. They have a good cast, directors,etc., and ample budgets, and the stars had enormous chemistry, on and off screen. Even Jamie Dornan's wife seems to like Dakota. The scenery is magnificent,and I loved the aircraft sequences.
Many women LOVE those books and films. The one with whom I watched the DVD's gushed profusely about them. I should point out that she's more my daughter's age than are most on this board.
Actually, she's a few years younger than my daughter, who hasn't shown any interest in the series.I think I understand the appeal of the stories, especially to women. I've read a couple of books by female psychiatrists about women's fantasies and see where that appeal is coming from. I'd better not say more on this board.
I am pleased that the author has enjoyed her terrific success. I think she sold more of those books than the other woman author did of her Harry Potter series. Both had astronomical success.
The author supposedly got her start on FanFiction.net, the big site for aspiring authors. There are some very good writers there, but the overall standard is low. My own short stories, based on a couple of TV shows, taught me to write fiction, very different from writing magazine articles, of which I already had ample experience. I have heard from several ladies that the Shades writing is not especially good. It is the theme, the adventurous romance between Christian and Anastasia, that made the books so successful. Many women are bored by their love lives. I can tell you, the films are quite well made, with excellent casts and settings. If you liked the books, you'll probably be very pleased with all three films. You can see many interviews with the stars and film clips on YouTube.
The girl with whom I saw the films at home kept gushing about how wonderful and emotional they were.
And they have certainly been enormous commercial successes. I'd have changed a few minor details, mainly in regard to a couple of Ana's outfits, and I'd have shown the bodyguards' weapons, discretely for the most part. These aren't action movies, with a lot of gunplay.
You said a male relative taught Ana to shoot. That reminds me of Suzanne Arruda's books about an American girl in Kenya in the 1920's. She learned to shoot on her father's New Mexico ranch. Besides her rifle, she wore a hunting knife made by a ranch hand, in her boot. I picture it as a copy of Marble's Ideal model, with five-inch blade.
I met Prof. Arruda at a book signing and offered some advice on suitable guns. A college peer was giving her some miserable advice in the earlier books of that series. I gave her a spare copy of John Taylor's, "African Rifles and Cartridges" that she found very helpful. And the author credited me as an advisor in later books. That feels pretty good!
Anyway, in the last two, Fifty Shades films, look at that gun. It's a S&W M-36, the usual blued snub version. Could be a M-37, as the only difference is the light alloy frame vs. steel. I couldn't tell which auto the female bodyguard had in the scene where Jack was caught in the Greys' home.
For what it's worth, Dakota's dad, Don Johnson, has used some interesting guns in his roles, like "Miami Vice." He told an inviewer that he probably won't see Dakota's movies in that series, as he's read, "Story of O" and that's all he needed to know about such plots. I've read that book and seen the film, and he's generalizing too much. There are definite differences between Christian Grey, who married Ana, and the cynical, self possessed Sir Stephen of Pauline Reage's book. The latter, BTW, strikes me as being quite French in its outlook. I hope that Patvince and any other French members won't see that as a negative comment. It's just a cultural observation.
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kbm6893
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Presumably, you're referring to the Fifty Shades of Grey books. Doesn't seem as if you're referencing what I wrote about the Lost World prop guns.
Actually, I haven't read the books. I know a girl Online who said they're greatly overhyped and not as naughty as inferred. So, I didn't know that Christian Grey had an aversion to guns. He never wore one in the three movies, but has armed bodyguards: Taylor and that other couple in the third film... As a billionaire, he had cause for security.
Because I haven't read the books, I didn't know that Ana knew anything about guns. She was a recent college grad living in Seattle, a liberal city, and all her friends seemed liberal and non-gun people. And the author is English! So, I'm pleased and surprised that an uncle, etc. taught Ana.
The movies are very impressive. They have a good cast, directors,etc., and ample budgets, and the stars had enormous chemistry, on and off screen. Even Jamie Dornan's wife seems to like Dakota. The scenery is magnificent,and I loved the aircraft sequences.
Many women LOVE those books and films. The one with whom I watched the DVD's gushed profusely about them. I should point out that she's more my daughter's age than are most on this board.
I think I understand the appeal of the stories, especially to women. I've read a couple of books by female psychiatrists about women's fantasies and see where that appeal is coming from. I'd better not say more on this board.
I am pleased that the author has enjoyed her terrific success. I think she sold more of those books than the other woman author did of her Harry Potter series. Both had astronomical success.
The author supposedly got her start on FanFiction.net, the big site for aspiring authors. There are some very good writers there, but the overall standard is low. My own short stories, based on a couple of TV shows, taught me to write fiction, very different from writing magazine articles, of which I already had ample experience. I have heard from several ladies that the Shades writing is not especially good. It is the theme, the adventurous romance between Christian and Anastasia, that made the books so successful. Many women are bored by their love lives. I can tell you, the films are quite well made, with excellent casts and settings. If you liked the books, you'll probably be very pleased with all three films. You can see many interviews with the stars and film clips on YouTube.
The girl with whom I saw the films at home kept gushing about how wonderful and emotional they were.
And they have certainly been enormous commercial successes. I'd have changed a few minor details, mainly in regard to a couple of Ana's outfits, and I'd have shown the bodyguards' weapons, discretely for the most part. These aren't action movies, with a lot of gunplay.
You said a male relative taught Ana to shoot. That reminds me of Suzanne Arruda's books about an American girl in Kenya in the 1920's. She learned to shoot on her father's New Mexico ranch. Besides her rifle, she wore a hunting knife made by a ranch hand, in her boot. I picture it as a copy of Marble's Ideal model, with five-inch blade.
I met Prof. Arruda at a book signing and offered some advice on suitable guns. A college peer was giving her some miserable advice in the earlier books of that series. I gave her a spare copy of John Taylor's, "African Rifles and Cartridges" that she found very helpful. And the author credited me as an advisor in later books. That feels pretty good!
Anyway, in the last two, Fifty Shades books, look at that gun. It's a S&W M-36, the usual blued snub version. Could be a M-37, as the only difference is the light alloy frame vs. steel. I couldn't tell which auto the female bodyguard had in the scene where Jack was caught in the Greys' home.
For what it's worth, Dakota's dad, Don Johnson, has used some interesting guns in his roles, like "Miami Vice." He told an inviewer that he probably won't see Dakota's movies in that series, as he's read, "Story of O" and that's all he needed to know about such plots. I've read that book and seen the film, and he's generalizing too much. There are definite differences between Christian Grey, who married Ana, and the cynical, self possessed Sir Stephen of Pauline Reage's book. The latter, BTW, strikes me as being quite French in its outlook. I hope that Patvince and any other French members won't see that as a negative comment. It's just a cultural observation.
I'm sure don Johnson isn't watching the movies because he doesn't want to see his daughter naked and being submissive to some dude. As a father of a daughter, I don't blame him.
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Oh, sure. That's definitely the impression he gave in that interview.
But Marisa Miller said that her dad gets extra copies of magazines in which she's posed, inc. the, Sports Ill. issue in which she wore just a cell phone or small transistor radio. He's very proud of her.
I'm a little relieved that my daughter chose not to model or become an actress. I think that's the prevailing attitude among fathers.
Back in 1992, when Sharon Stone became famous for just one scene in a particular movie, I wondered how her dad felt. But actresses sometimes take notorious roles to become household names and get major roles.
I respect Dakota Johnson, as both a person and an actress. She seems a nice person. And for Hollywood, she isn't radically irritating as many other actresses are. BTW, her character achieved parity with Grey in the series and they married. She reformed his kinky ways. One reason why so many women like the series is that it's basically a poor girl catches a rich man theme. Sort of like, Pretty Woman in that aspect.
But I understand your view. Dads of actresses and models must need more tolerance than most fathers have.
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