MP22 Compact thread adapters

[WilliamG]

I'm not Eric, but I can answer these two.

1. Sparrow/Specter II use an o-ring inside the rear of the suppressor to help keep the "****" from blowing back onto the threads of the adapter. Look at the picture in the first post of this thread. See how the adapter on the left has a bare area that extends beyond the threads? That's where the o-ring is engaged to create the seal.

2. Yes, EWK does offer a Sparrow/Specter adapter for the M&P22 Compact. I know because I ordered it in error and had to correct my order.

Thanks for the reply. Just to be clear: So the O-Ring is in the Specter II, and the engagement is in the thread adapter?

So I just get this, and that's all I need?

Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Compact Thread Adapter For Sparrow Blued - $23.00 : EWK Arms

That looks like it has the O-Ring engagement (no threads section) in the adapter, right?

Thanks!

 

[BigWaylon]

1. Sparrow/Specter II use an o-ring inside the rear of the suppressor to help keep the "****" from blowing back onto the threads of the adapter. Look at the picture in the first post of this thread. See how the adapter on the left has a bare area that extends beyond the threads? That's where the o-ring is engaged to create the seal.

Scott explains the o-ring engagement just fine...but if you want to see some more discussion including pictures, here you go. Just no reason to not get the o-ring version if you're running SiCo cans.

As info, the Warlock II also has the o-ring engagement.

ETA1: The $23 adapter has the engagement section, the $22 does not. Both would work with the Silencerco cans, as the regular one is short enough to not hit the o-ring.

ETA2: yes, the o-ring is in the Silencerco rimfire cans, and seals on the smooth part of the adapter.

 

[cmichael]

I just got the Twin Tech Adapter today, I just put it on, and when I pull the slide back, I can feel it rub against the slide, Its normal or the gun is off Spec? anyone can give me 2 cent? Its any way I can contact Twin Tech?

 

[WilliamG]

Thanks for the replies, guys. Appreciate the help here.

cmichael - Not sure what to tell you. Where is it rubbing?

 

[strobro32]

If I in anyway suggested EWK adapters were responsible for suppressor damage, I apologize. Everything I have ever read or heard about their adapters for the 422 series has been positive. I agree with Eric's 3 points.

The question that interests me most is, how the lead particles will react from expanding at the muzzle, into the larger ID of the adapter and then accumulate at smaller ID at the wrench flats?

I personally prefer SS material for my .22 suppressors for the ease of cleaning. If EWK ever makes a blackened SS adapter for the 22C, I will buy and extra adapter from them. He has a fantastic price.

I agree. Lets all buy them from the different companies and compare.

 

[cmichael]

Thanks for the replies, guys. Appreciate the help here.

cmichael - Not sure what to tell you. Where is it rubbing?

Lower part of the Adapter, The barrel nut is shape concave out, but the Adapter is perfect rounded, When I rack the slide back, I can feel it rubbing against the lower Adapter, Maybe the gun is off spec, anyone here can give me .02 cents?

 

[ewk_stuff]

WilliamG, The guys here are right on! Can say I believe I only have one of the Sparrow spec adapters in stock-will have more ready in couple weeks though. Stock on my website is current, so if its shows its in stock, you're good to go.

cmichael, I think the best thing to do would be to put the factory barrel nut back on and see if you have any rubbing-that should narrow it down if its the gun or the adapter.

 

[WilliamG]

WilliamG, The guys here are right on! Can say I believe I only have one of the Sparrow spec adapters in stock-will have more ready in couple weeks though. Stock on my website is current, so if its shows its in stock, you're good to go.

cmichael, I think the best thing to do would be to put the factory barrel nut back on and see if you have any rubbing-that should narrow it down if its the gun or the adapter.

Heya, thanks for the reply.

You now have 0 in stock. And I'm happy. So you can guess who got the last one.

 

[cmichael]

WilliamG, The guys here are right on! Can say I believe I only have one of the Sparrow spec adapters in stock-will have more ready in couple weeks though. Stock on my website is current, so if its shows its in stock, you're good to go.

cmichael, I think the best thing to do would be to put the factory barrel nut back on and see if you have any rubbing-that should narrow it down if its the gun or the adapter.

I put the factory barrel nut back on, When I rack the slide back, I can feel the barrel nut and the lower side of the barrel rubbing against it, but If I take the recoil spring out, no rubbing at all, I think the recoil spring put pressure on the front of the slide to goes up few hair, cause the barrel nut to rubbing against the lower part of the muzzle end of the slide.

Going to call up Smith to find a solution.

 

[WilliamG]

Just to update, I got my EWK M&P .22 Compact thread adapter today, so thanks to EWK for getting it out to me so speedily.

It's interesting to compare my Gemtech .22 (full size) thread adapter to this EWK.

The only major difference is of course the way you tighten the adapter to the barrel. If fouling doesn't become a major issue (which it really shouldn't if you clean your guns even reasonably often), then I think the internal EWK method is potentially less... hazardous to your gun..

I don't know about anyone else, but I get very nervous using the wrench tool that comes with my S&W M&P .22 (full size) when I tighten/untighten either the factory thread protector or tighten/untighten the Gemtech thread adapter. One slip of the wrench and I know I'm going to gouge either the easily-marred aluminum slide or the polymer frame. I know because I've almost done it a couple of times... I don't see either of those things happening with the EWK. Frankly, the allen-key design makes too much sense to me! Time will tell if fouling becomes an issue. If it doesn't, I'd take this EWK design any day of the week over the wrench design.

Either way, let's face it, it's just a thread with a cover, so any of them should do the job. I will say, it would have been nice for an extra dollar or two to see an option of a 1/4" allen key in the package. I don't have a dedicated 1/4" allen key, since I just have a set of allen keys, and I'd like to have a dedicated one for the range bag. Not a biggie, though.

Overall, though, the EWK seems great value for money when you factor in the pricing elsewhere. The thread protector looks high quality, - it screws on easily and smoothly. The idea of spending $68 (which is over 20% of the price of the M&P .22 compact itself - and about 25% of the price some people have been getting the compact for!) is just... sinful. So it's good to see EWK take on a more conservative (read: realistic) approach here.

The only thing I'm missing now is my M&P .22 Compact. Hopefully this week I'll get to pick one up and actually use my new Specter II!

 

[BigWaylon]

I put the factory barrel nut back on, When I rack the slide back, I can feel the barrel nut and the lower side of the barrel rubbing against it, but If I take the recoil spring out, no rubbing at all, I think the recoil spring put pressure on the front of the slide to goes up few hair, cause the barrel nut to rubbing against the lower part of the muzzle end of the slide.

Going to call up Smith to find a solution.

Any update? I went ahead and ordered a Twin Tech (SiCo version) adapter tonight since they have the blackened versions in stock. I like this version as the flats are in the thickest area of the adapter. Might look a little odd, but we'll see.

Ordered it ~10pm last night, and shipment notice came by 11am today.

 

[strobro32]

Blackened SRI adapter with SilencerCo thread protector. The internal hammer makes it easy to use your thumb to hold the action closed for a super quiet suppressed shot.

The SRI wrench flats are wider and shallower than ths S&W ones so you will need a double wrench. The SRI adapter hasmore material there and should be stronger. I'm making a wrench that looks similar to Stan's tonight.

 

[WilliamG]

I just picked up my M&P .22 Compact today, and I was surprised to see no wrench in the box to remove the thread protector. I have the wrench from my full-size M&P .22, but it's too big.

And get this: I called S&W just now to ask about the wrench, and they said I should wait for a kit from a company like Gemtech, and they don't even know the size of the wrench I'd need.

CRAZY! How can a company sell a gun which you can't use properly without buying a kit from someone else - a kit I might add that doesn't even exist yet (if it ever will!). And how can they not know what size wrench their own gun needs?!

Anyway, a bit cheesed off I have no apparent way to get this thread protector off. Any tips, guys?

 

[BigWaylon]

I just used vise grips and a shop towel about 2 minutes ago to get mine off.

Had never looked for a wrench, just assumed it was there. Saw your post and went to check since I ordered a threaded adapter last night. No wrench in mine.

 

[WilliamG]

I just used vise grips and a shop towel about 2 minutes ago to get mine off.

Had never looked for a wrench, just assumed it was there. Saw your post and went to check since I ordered a threaded adapter last night. No wrench in mine.

Would you mind explaining that in more detail? The best I've been able to do is:

1.) Remove slide.
2.) Wrap towl around end of barrel
3.) Use a regular wrench to grip the thread protector and turn
4.) Fail miserably.

 

[BigWaylon]

Wasn't real concerned if I scratch the factory TP, but it's still in pretty good shape. It's on there tight, so some type of locking pliers is the way to go.

And just to make sure...they are normal lefty-loosey threads.

 

[bloodsport06]

just ordered the ewk arms thread adapter, mainly because it was the best in the price that included a thread protector!

 

[hoc9sw]

This has come up in earlier posts. My papers have not come through from ATF, so the can is still with the FFL.

I will be looking for a kit soon, but have not let that interfere with being able to shoot "normal" .22 (my Sig demands CCI Mini Mags, which don't exist in the LGS / local retail environment).

Shooting all that "****" ammo that I had written off as a loss through the .22 compact is a bonus, can or not.

But yes, I'll be looking for a kit as well.

 

[WilliamG]

Wasn't real concerned if I scratch the factory TP, but it's still in pretty good shape. It's on there tight, so some type of locking pliers is the way to go.

And just to make sure...they are normal lefty-loosey threads.

Thank you for the pictures. I used my locking pliers (they look similar to yours), but I was unable to remove the thread protector. And as a bonus, the thread protector looks terrible now.

*sigh*

Guess I'll have to pay a gunsmith to remove it. What a joke. Thanks, S&W!!

 

[BigWaylon]

If somebody has a set of calipers, would you measure the notches in the factory thread protector to see what size wrench would fit? I bet you could by a cone wrench for a bicycle that fits. Just had to buy one for a PS90.