My daughter was assaulted

[Golddollar]

A judgment against the child is pretty worthless at present but you could keep the judgment active and get him sometime into the future. The judgment will accrue interest.

If he tries to get a car loan in 5 or 6 years and/or a mortgage in 10 years or so the judgment should come up in a search of the public records and tie him up until he pays the judgment. The secret is to continually renew the judgment in a timely manner in order to maintain the priority of the lien. The life of a judgment varies from state to state, so that would be one question to ask an attorney.

 

[jeffrefrig]

This really ticks me off, these stories, mainly because I worked for the Pittsburgh School Dist. Those darned kids were just plain major drains on our education system. And their "parents" were the biggest pieces of crab grass in the city. It really stinks to see someone try to get into the education system and end up quitting. Pittsburgh is a small town compared to many cities, but the majority of...
God Bless Our Teachers. They need our support.

 

[59yukon01]

If it was my daughter I'd stalk the little punk, and once alone he'd get an attitude adjustment from a masked stranger.

 

[Muddyboot]

When I was in High School in the late 70's, had something like this happened, we had some very large male teachers who would have found and corrected the attitude of that young idiot.

After that, arrest and permanent expulsion would quickly follow.

 

[djohns6]

My wife is a substitute teacher in the local school system . Those middle school kids can be unreal . Zero respect for authority and absolutely no fear of consequences for their actions . One day she came home and said that a kid had called her a " ***** " . A couple of days later she said " I got promoted . Today I became a stupid f***** ***** " . No violence yet but I won't be surprised if it happens .

 

[lihpster]

When I was in High School in the late 70's, had something like this happened, we had some very large male teachers who would have found and corrected the attitude of that young idiot.

After that, arrest and permanent expulsion would quickly follow.

I went to high school in the early '80s. One of my teachers was Mr. Hoss. Mr.Hoss was a former tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was 6'8" tall and around 250 pounds. One day near the beginning of the school year a student who had transferred that year, apparently because of discipline problems at his last school. He apparently thought that standing up to the biggest teacher in the school would give him "street cred". After several things were said on both sides, the kid finished with a sentence that both ordered Mr. Hoss to perform an unnatural act on himself, and questioned the morals of his sainted mother. Mr. Hoss slowly turned to the door and went out into the hall, managing to slam the door even though it had a hydraulic closer. Then there was a huge BOOM from the hallway. We sat there for about 30 seconds in stunned silence, then one of the guys got up, opened the door and looked into the hall. His eyes got huge, and he waved us over to the door. In the hallway, one of the lockers was caved in all the way to the back, with a large fist sized dent in the middle. I don't know whose stuff was in it, but it wasn't coming back out anytime soon. The new kid turned white as a sheet and headed for the exit. By this time, other classes were spilling out in the hall, with everyone asking what happened. At the end of it, Mr. Hoss took a week off, and the kid was never seen again.

 

[cmj8591]

It all went bad when the school system went from being a place you sent your kid to be educated to a government subsidized day care system. Two things amaze me when I've had to deal with public school teachers. How many of them send their kids to private school and how many of them are in denial that the system is broken. Of course there is no one to blame here but the electorate. This is the system we've put in place either voting it in or passively, by not taking an interest. With all due respect to the public school teachers here, the only solution is to dismantle it and start over.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

"Middle class" too often only refers to income and not mores. Plenty of erstwhile "middle class" kids have unsupportive and at best indifferent parents who can't wait for their kids to reach 18 and be "emancipated".
Back in my day-Princeton, New Jersey, Grades 7-12, 1961-1967, troublesome, disruptive-violent-students were quickly expelled, sent to "Jamesburg"-the state's primary reform school. Had the same connotations that Columbia House had in Berlin in the 1930s and the Lubyanka had in Moscow.

 

[Bald1]

1) No, just no. Jail or lawsuit is the only outcome of a "home visit."
2) If a student uses physical "action" even to help, the student will face consequences.

I recently finished 15 years teaching in a local High School and all I can say is she is young enough and smart (degree, shows she can complete endless tasks) that a quality employer will be lucky to get her. Out now. Sorry to hear this but it has become routine. Merry Christmas. Joe

U and I are just different that way. Any kid coming to her defense would have been looked upon as using forcing defending another. The problem is these hoodlums face no consequences for their actions. Does anyone think a kid that can do that will ever be a contributing member of our society???? I think not. I don't want to reform him. I want to punish him. Eye for an eye. I promise you he'd never do it again.

 

[MDF4]

It all went bad when the school system went from being a place you sent your kid to be educated to a government subsidized day care system. Two things amaze me when I've had to deal with public school teachers. How many of them send their kids to private school and how many of them are in denial that the system is broken. Of course there is no one to blame here but the electorate. This is the system we've put in place either voting it in or passively, by not taking an interest. With all due respect to the public school teachers here, the only solution is to dismantle it and start over.

I'll add to this; private schools are "Iffy" at best. We put our children in private school K thru 8 and as the years moved on it became very apparent the children of the wealthiest donors were nothing more than spoiled brats and the faculty did little to address it. Enter our 12 year old pack leader; "You hurt my little sister." The offender went crying to the office with a bloody nose.
Me and the Misses sitting in front of the board; "Damn right and she had my permission."

 

[BigBoy99]

Back in my High School days (late '50's - early '60's), I recall an incident where one of the school's "Smart Alex" tried to punch the football couch. The next instant, the kid was against the wall, suspended about a foot off the ground by the coach's hand on his throat. After a few choice words were imparted to the student, he was dropped to the floor. After that day, no one EVER tried anything against the coach and that student's attitude changed remarkably.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

U didn't mention the age of the student. I'm guessing 13-14 in middle school. If your daughter has a husband/boyfriend he should pay a visit to students home. Student and parents need as they say tuned up……. Bigger picture, I find it disturbing and disappointing that every male student sat there and did not react. I couldn't sit there while a woman was assaulted. I can say the same for my son and step son… I'm sorry that happened.

In my dealings with juvenile offenders I found most of the time the old saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" applies.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

Back in my High School days (late '50's - early '60's), I recall an incident where one of the school's "Smart Alex" tried to punch the football couch. The next instant, the kid was against the wall, suspended about a foot off the ground by the coach's hand on his throat. After a few choice words were imparted to the student, he was dropped to the floor. After that day, no one EVER tried anything against the coach and that student's attitude changed remarkably.

Sadly ...in this day and age...I don't think that would work.

 

[Sarge9]

Sorry bout your kid, but maybe tell her, it's only bloody nose.
In today's world, she is lucky it was not worse.
If you start a war with student/family they prob don't have anything
to lose. Her car, home or maybe her life could become target. PPL are nuts.
Maybe the kid is dealing with something at home and just snapped. IDK
Give her big hug, for me, missing my daughter this week.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Symptom of a much larger problem in the US today.

Truer words have never been spoken.

The United States today has become a terribly violent place. All across our society, people are primed to lash out, often with little or no provocation, and harm other people.

We see it in our schools; retail stores; in traffic; in hospitals; in public buildings; in airports and train stations; on our streets...everywhere.

We see it among almost all demographic groups, and at almost all ages. We see it in young people who grew up without any guidance or discipline in their lives...and we see it in older people who were raised the right way, and who pride themselves on being patriotic, law abiding Americans.

What was once abnormal and rare has become commonplace. I live in a small town that hasn't seen a serious crime in years...but three days ago there was an armed carjacking in broad daylight at a busy shopping center.

Baltimore, where I grew up, and which was once a thriving city of almost 1,000,000...now has only 585,000 citizens, and has recorded 322 homicides so far this year. (That is more homicides than in 24 states.)

Meanwhile, in Germany, which has 83,000,000 citizens, there were 257 homicides in the entire country last year.

Something is desperately, tragically deficient in American society. I don't have the answers, but I can see the problem all too clearly.

I feel like we're watching a pact with the devil play out...

 

[Beemerguy53]

She could possibly file assault charges against the student. Time to talk to a lawyer. We used to say "He needs an attitude adjustment." Maybe if the parents had to pay a big settlement, they might do some attitude adjusting.

This is the best response to this situation, I think. Suggestions that her husband should go to the kid's home, or somebody should whoop him, are only going to get the avenger in trouble.

If the school had been notified about this kid, and did nothing, I would also think the school system would be liable. And there is probably a workers' compensation claim to be made for the injury.

 

[chief38]

NOT ACCEPTABLE! If it were my Daughter I'd pursue it in Civil Court of the ADA won't prosecute the case. Sorry for your Daughter - it will always be in the back of her mind and I know you will always be thinking about it as well.

 

[Beemerguy53]

My father would have killed me, if I were the student. I remember some students talking back, but I never saw a teacher assaulted. I will not hold my breath but I hope the student apologizes someday.

Spot on.

I went to Catholic schools in Baltimore for 12 years. We were terrified of our teachers...but I was far more afraid of my parents' reaction if I did something bad in school.

Nowadays, parents rubberstamp whatever their little angels do...

 

[Beemerguy53]

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif]My daughter and her family arrived yesterday evening to spend the Christmas holidays with us. Something seemed off, she was not her jovial effervescent self...[/FONT]

Jinglebob, I am so sorry this happened to your daughter...what a damper this must be putting on what should be a happy, joyous season.

I think I can speak for us all on here when I ask you to give her a hug and thank her on our behalf for her service and dedication, and to accept our best wishes for her recovery from this terrible and traumatic attack.

 

[quikdraw67]

As satisfying as it would be to go to the home of the little piece of **** and confront him and the parents, don't. The parents are probably bigger pieces of ****, and things won't end well.

Lawyer up, and doggedly pursue any and all options open to your daughter,

This is not the America I grew up in. I am saddened to read this.

Jinglebob, give your daughter a hug from me.