I have never had the diñero to get a Seecamp, but noted with interest that someone mentioned their Keltec P32. I probably only have 100 rounds through mine but it has been flawless. Very light - I’m sure compared to the Seecamp - and MecGar mags (same as the Beretta 3032) to keep it running smoothly. The über-street savvy here will probably laugh about some old geezer carrying a P32, but it sure beats a sharp stick!!
My Hero, Larry Seecamp
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Bill Lear
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Added a link to allow others to see my slide removal tool in action.
The link is safe - it's to my Google Drive.
20200817_201316.mp4 - Google Drive
The link is safe - it's to my Google Drive.
20200817_201316.mp4 - Google Drive
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We're the reverse. My son owns a Milford; I own a Southwick. We shoot out back together on week ends. Absolutely no difference in quality, fit, finish, and performance between the two. Over on the Seecamp forum, I'm one of the "high round count" guys. Last month I put a box pf PMC Bronze through the Southwick to put the little gun over 2,800 rounds.
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As some have said, the Southwick guns are every bit as fine as the Milford guns.
They are great pocket guns. Sometimes the only gun I have with me.
They are great pocket guns. Sometimes the only gun I have with me.
First - let me say to Bill Lear you should patent that tool and find a way to get in production - or try and partner with the brothers at Southwick. While the Seecamp community is small your gizmo would be readily welcomed I’m sure. Post it on the Seecamp Forum where a whole cottage industry sprung up over the years with people making and selling holsters, grips, magazine extensions, etc.
Next if I may, a hopefully brief enough personal Seecamp history. I met Larry when I was a young policeman spending an off duty day at the public shooting range near New Haven (pre .25 production). I was walking to the snack bar and saw a rather scraggly fellow sitting at a handgun bench with two cardboard boxes. He had cigarette butts shoved in his ears for plugs. He was picking 1911s out of one box and ammo out of another - shooting the gun - and then speaking into a handheld tape recorder. I stopped to watch. I realized what the guns were from the pages of gun magazines. I asked if they were Seecamp’s and Larry introduced himself and said he was test firing a batch of conversions and recording his notes. He let me shoot one. I should have given him my Lightweight Commander to make one for me. Long story short Larry made me one of the first personalized .25s and it was my police backup for many years.
I met his folks - his Dad thought my wife had the prettiest eyes and made her a personalized, polished and lightened trigger pull .25 which was her 25th birthday present, and the serial was her name xxx 25. Larry said it was the only full polish .25 to leave the shop out of the roughly 5,000 made before they switched to .32
His Dad showed me many guns he had customized and a 9mm prototype that never went into production. I brought Larry many of my co-workers who bought .25s and later .32s for backup or off duty. My .32 was a prototype and subsequently replaced with a production model which I requested to be two tone and to skip the “restricted edition” stamp on the slide which I now regret as I have a matched serial set - before the ATF told Larry he couldn’t repeat serial numbers (nonsense - two or three different model numbers and Colt and others made matched sets). I’m proud to say I knew Larry through good and bad times. He never married he focused on taking care of his parents. He thus had no kids or other family to take the reigns. He was firmly committed to building a product people could use to protect themselves and he had some stories of people that did around the world. Others have commented in this thread about his work habits and him personally and they are all spot on. He was a great guy who I think would be ok with the direction his company has taken. I only found out about his passing after the fact and regret not seeing him more after the company was sold. RIP Larry.
Next if I may, a hopefully brief enough personal Seecamp history. I met Larry when I was a young policeman spending an off duty day at the public shooting range near New Haven (pre .25 production). I was walking to the snack bar and saw a rather scraggly fellow sitting at a handgun bench with two cardboard boxes. He had cigarette butts shoved in his ears for plugs. He was picking 1911s out of one box and ammo out of another - shooting the gun - and then speaking into a handheld tape recorder. I stopped to watch. I realized what the guns were from the pages of gun magazines. I asked if they were Seecamp’s and Larry introduced himself and said he was test firing a batch of conversions and recording his notes. He let me shoot one. I should have given him my Lightweight Commander to make one for me. Long story short Larry made me one of the first personalized .25s and it was my police backup for many years.
I met his folks - his Dad thought my wife had the prettiest eyes and made her a personalized, polished and lightened trigger pull .25 which was her 25th birthday present, and the serial was her name xxx 25. Larry said it was the only full polish .25 to leave the shop out of the roughly 5,000 made before they switched to .32
His Dad showed me many guns he had customized and a 9mm prototype that never went into production. I brought Larry many of my co-workers who bought .25s and later .32s for backup or off duty. My .32 was a prototype and subsequently replaced with a production model which I requested to be two tone and to skip the “restricted edition” stamp on the slide which I now regret as I have a matched serial set - before the ATF told Larry he couldn’t repeat serial numbers (nonsense - two or three different model numbers and Colt and others made matched sets). I’m proud to say I knew Larry through good and bad times. He never married he focused on taking care of his parents. He thus had no kids or other family to take the reigns. He was firmly committed to building a product people could use to protect themselves and he had some stories of people that did around the world. Others have commented in this thread about his work habits and him personally and they are all spot on. He was a great guy who I think would be ok with the direction his company has taken. I only found out about his passing after the fact and regret not seeing him more after the company was sold. RIP Larry.
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I have a pair in .32 ACP one black and one bright. I love them. Even qual'd with them (3 to 25 yards). 50 rounds and your palm hurts.
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Looks like you 3-D FDM printed that. Nice job! If interested you can also send it out to various 3-D printer shops that use laser sintered nylon. Nylon glass filled is a little brittle but nylon-12 is a little pliable and tough. A part like that would probably run you $10-$15.
I’m in for two also. 
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The photo version is printed using ABS because it's just really tough, ready-to-go material that has excellent material properties. It can also be vapor smoothed for that "just out of the mould" look. It has to be printed around 240 C and an enclosure is advisable - or a draft shield. But ABS just feels good in the hand.
I've tested TPU flexible filament with the result being a strong, part that gives like it's made from heavy, almost inflexible rubber with the right fill %.
I invented this tool a couple of years back, but Covid kind side-tracked my thoughts about offering it for sale. But it IS just as easy to use as shown in video - only took a dozen or so prototypes to get the release button feel and feedback just right. I thought of sending samples out to those doing video reviews. The tool is something I suspect EVERY Seecamp owner would want once they see it in action, though, I don't know if there are subtle differences between the Milford production and Southwick, because it's designed to fit the Milford current production precisely.
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“ I don't know if there are subtle differences between the Milford production and Southwick, because it's designed to fit the Milford current production precisely.”
Milford was the original place of manufacture, Southwick is the current spot. Sell me one of your tools, I have access to both versions of the gun.
Milford was the original place of manufacture, Southwick is the current spot. Sell me one of your tools, I have access to both versions of the gun.
They are sweet pistols, indeed. I've had this one a long time; I should shoot it more. It's been a very long time.
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We don't use ABS because, as you say, you need an enclosure. And ABS can be a bit brittle. We use a bunch of different FDM materials for our printers and also have an SLS printer that we use to make molds for urethane parts. We've had a lot of success using sintering with the various nylons - we have them dyed black for cosmetic looks. Our stuff has to be stable with heat, cold, UV etc for military/defense use. If I can help you just send me a PM. We use solidworks. BTW we use a urethane FDM for making fist load weapons like bottles, flashlights, and staplers for training in defensive tactics. If you keep the fill low they are durable yet soft enough not to split someone's forehead open.
Because of this discussion about Seecamps, I was prompted to search out some new ammunition for my .380 version, and SGAmmo has Winchester .380 Silvertips for about $20 per box, which is as cheap as I have seen it lately.
I have no interest in this company, just passing this along in case somebody out there reading this thread says to themselves, "Geeze - I really should practice some with my Seecamp."
And I'll offer a little tip - we call this redneck stippling, but a small strip of 3M tread tape (usually used on ladders and that sort of thing) below the trigger guard really improves the grip on the Seecamp. This particular little gun is obviously a Walther PPK, but you get the idea. This tape is really durable and comes off cleanly, but I have seen it hold up for years.
I have no interest in this company, just passing this along in case somebody out there reading this thread says to themselves, "Geeze - I really should practice some with my Seecamp."
And I'll offer a little tip - we call this redneck stippling, but a small strip of 3M tread tape (usually used on ladders and that sort of thing) below the trigger guard really improves the grip on the Seecamp. This particular little gun is obviously a Walther PPK, but you get the idea. This tape is really durable and comes off cleanly, but I have seen it hold up for years.
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Start making a list and put me on it please! I'd like one or two of those tools, like everyone else. The demand is certainly there.
ColbyBruce
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If you Seecamp owners have no luck buying one of Bill Lear’s take down tools be advised a Glock tool (3/32” punch) works perfectly to punch the Seecamp slide release. The Glock tool is about $8.00.
If I had the skills I’d be making that tool and selling boatloads of em’.
Wait, who’s the guy that makes the sight pushers, maybe he can gear up.
Wait, who’s the guy that makes the sight pushers, maybe he can gear up.
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