My input to sports teams on name change
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I love reading about the Rangers whoopin' up on the Yankees, or as we call them, the damn Yankees.
Puller
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I have not watched a pro sports game on TV or in person in 5 years, I've not missed it and it actually allows me to spend time doing other, more important things. I have no intention of ever spending a dime or one second on people who don't respect this country or respect my patronage that used to help make them rich.
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No problem I realized my post wouldn't be well received. And yes some of this stuff is ridiculous and goes way overboard. But not all.
I don't think there is anything particularly offensive about your logo examples ( except for the swastika on the Lafayette Escadrille. Which after googling it, I realized it was used for good luck and BEFORE the Nazi's adapted it).
Now my examples on the other hand are ridiculous caricatures of Native Americans. Again speaking as a non- Native American I don't have any problems with the names Cleveland Indians, or Atlanta Braves, but their logo's are.... no other way to put it stereotypical racist garbage and need to go. I would like to see anybody defend this Cleveland Indians "chief Wahoo" logo.
Perhaps each unique instance of what is offensive and what isn't needs to be looked at and judged on the merits...and not paint everything with such a broad brush. And that goes both ways.
I'll defend the Chief Wahoo logo and I'm not a baseball fan. Isn't the Ohio area full of Native Heritage - why else would they choose the name Indians? Aren't most sports logos are caricatures? I don't think Chief Wahoo is racist - but then, I'm not looking to be offended. I think it's funny!
Why don't we ask Indians aka Native Americans if they are offended? Wouldn't they know? Yeah, there's a vocal minority - a minority, but I'll bet most don't care. I'll bet other people who are offended aren't Native. They are offended by proxy.
We live in an age of sensitivity and feelings. But the world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.
Again, my comment/observation is not directed at you, personally, Turq.
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No. Shame on you. You're letting your privilege show. By calling yourself a "homeowner" your implying you actually worked to pay for your home using your own effort.
You're not an "owner." You're just a privileged custodian of some community property you seem to think is yours.
That seems to be the current talking point some groups are using anyway.
I don't see the problem with the Redskins...
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Ματθιας;140833133 said:
I appreciate your response.
I am a huge baseball fan and am not offended by the Indians name at all.
"Aren't most sports logos are caricatures?"
That is not a standard we use as to what is right and what is wrong.
"but I'll bet most don't care"
I would take that bet. Native Americans have been protesting that logo for decades. A few may not care, but most...
"But the world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel."
I like to think....that we can do both. I "think" the Chief Wahoo logo at one time probably was "funny" (to some). But as a society we are evolving in many ways, some good and some not so good. Now I "feel" that most think how we treated the American Indians was a "tragedy". This dumb caricature, which serves no useful purpose at all, and is easily replaceable, is just a reminder of that tragedy.
Anyway it's all moot because Chief Wahoo is no longer. Personally I think the Indians would be smart to talk the native American population and come with a logo that both portrays the Indians in a positive light, and is also a cool baseball logo. It can't be that hard and would turn a negative into a positive. Just my two cents.
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Anyway it's all moot because Chief Wahoo is no longer.
Not in my house he isn't.
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Anyway it's all moot because Chief Wahoo is no longer. Personally I think the Indians would be smart to talk the native American population and come with a logo that both portrays the Indians in a positive light, and is also a cool baseball logo. It can't be that hard and would turn a negative into a positive. Just my two cents.
Sounds like an excellent suggestion to me.
I am really tired of all the "whitewashing" of logos and pictures. Soon everything will be so bland and monotonous. How will we know of past lives and peoples?
Am still waiting for the South to rise up and complain about the Yankees.
"If I haven't offended everyone yet, I apologize. Just be patient. I'll get around to you soon enough."
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John
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There's Bulls in Chicago?
Maybe change the Chicago Bulls to Chicago Bullets?
No, Chicago Pushers or Chicago Pimps.
Geoff
Who notes it would be indicative of the major industry.
No rant, just a suggested new name: The Washington Generals.
Well it seems obvious to me by now that no matter what any thing or any one is named SOME body is going to be offended/insulted. Everyone should just hit the pause button here and remember:
A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A ROSE!
A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A ROSE!
DWalt
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I would be deliriously happy to see all professional sports take a very long vacation. I was never much more than a lukewarm pro sports fan (more interested in college football than pro anything), but within the last couple of years, that lukewarm has turned to Arctic cold.
With the political correctness, does it mean that Liberals have to get rid of their red cars and Conservatives have to get rid of their blue cars ???
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