my wifes first cc gun

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My wife, after 5 years of asking her, took a cpl course and just got her cpl in the mail(yeah). She has not been an avid shooter, and until about a year ago, would never go to the range with me. Now, she is starting to get as addicted as me. She is looking for her first gun for concealment. In fact, her first gun ever. She has shot my 1911, my 910, my 5609, mu kel-tec pf9 and my .44 mag desert eagle. she was not happy with the recoil on any of them (go figure) and is leaning t0wards a .380 but thinks they are too small! (sorry, but some women can be too picky). I would like to se her get something like a .38 special, like a bodyguard or similar revolver. any suggestions?
 
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My 2 cents... my wife generally knows what she likes and dislikes.

Believe it or not they are capable of making informed choices with experience.

Give her options, then... LET HER CHOOSE
 
Here's a link with some insight into the female psyche regarding guns.
Cornered Cat - What Gun for a Woman?

Read and Heed, Brother, Read and Heed!!!!! :D:D:D:D

I suspect SWMBO bought a Rossi (.38spl snubbie) because she liked the way the name rolled off her tongue.
However, she can write her name with it at SD distances, so I don't express my suspicion when she's around. ;)
 
I have three daughters, a granddaughter and can only give you one piece of advice which echoes others, here:

Let her pick up a great many and let her choose the gun herself. Best if you can find a shop with lots of rentals to shoot, too.

Make sure she handles the Walther, Bersa, Beretta and CZ models. Small enough to conceal, but, heavy enough to pick up recoil. Also, get her online to certain sites that have women shooters selling concealed holsters to women. In holsters, what fits a man won't do for a woman... different torsos and waist lines. ;)

If you want to make a day of it, drive the 130 miles to Royal Oak and visit Target Sports, on Woodward Ave. They have a very, very large selection of rentals and I've seen them not charge a thing if they believe you are serious about buying. They also have a great, well ventilated and well lit range. Lots of .380's and lots of J Frame S&W's.
 
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My wife carries an early model 37 Smith and Wesson. You couldn't trade her out of it with anything else. It's simple, but she's confident with it. While I'm a revolver guy, I prefer to carry a Ruger LCP most of the time. She shot it once, handed it back to me and said "I don't like anything about it." She then went right back to shooting her revolver. As others have stated, let her choose.
 
Send your wife to the cornered cat site like someone else has suggested. And if she says she don't want to carry a gun drop it.
 
Hello,
I got my Mrs a S&W CS9 "Chief's Special" in 9MM. She has yet to shoot it but has handled it numerous times and feels very comfortable with it. It seems the the actress that plays "KONO" on Hawaii 5/O carries on that hepled Carol with her decision. Posted last week and every member that replied talked it up wholesale.
Good Luck,
 
Hello,
I got my Mrs a S&W CS9 "Chief's Special" in 9MM. She has yet to shoot it but has handled it numerous times and feels very comfortable with it. It seems the the actress that plays "KONO" on Hawaii 5/O carries on that hepled Carol with her decision. Posted last week and every member that replied talked it up wholesale.
Good Luck,

Does she carry it?
 
Among the choices available for consideration, I hope your wife has the chance to try a 3" J frame. It ain't new or trendy, but it still provides a wonderful balance of power, shootability and weight.

PC
 
I have three daughters, a granddaughter and can only give you one piece of advice which echoes others, here:

Let her pick up a great many and let her choose the gun herself. Best if you can find a shop with lots of rentals to shoot, too.

Make sure she handles the Walther, Bersa, Beretta and CZ models. Small enough to conceal, but, heavy enough to pick up recoil. Also, get her online to certain sites that have women shooters selling concealed holsters to women. In holsters, what fits a man won't do for a woman... different torsos and waist lines. ;)

If you want to make a day of it, drive the 130 miles to Royal Oak and visit Target Sports, on Woodward Ave. They have a very, very large selection of rentals and I've seen them not charge a thing if they believe you are serious about buying. They also have a great, well ventilated and well lit range. Lots of .380's and lots of J Frame S&W's.


A couple of thoughts about Target Sports, if you're thinking about checking it out with your wife (which I agree with the previous poster could be a good way to go):

1. In my opinion, the sales staff at Target Sports tend to feign knowledge that, in actuality, they do not possess. It's kind of one of those places where, if you ask a question, you definitely will get an answer, but you can't be 100% sure that the answer is accurate. The best thing to do, in my opinion, is educate yourself in advance so that you don't have to rely on the "knowledge" of others. On the other hand, the owner (Ray) is a really nice guy, in my experience.

2. Target Sports doesn't have any local competition of which to speak so prices tend to be quite high. The closest competitor is Double Action (Madison Heights), and their prices are really high as well. Case in point, last time I checked (a few months ago), Target Sports still was asking around $550 for the BG380, when the MSRP had been dropped to $399 (or thereabouts).

3. Target Sports does not carry the Kahr line at all, and I don't believe that they carry Taurus either. These are two manufacturers that have done quite a lot in terms of producing small firearms, and it would be a shame to not give your wife the opportunity to check out the Kahr and Taurus products. Double Action does carry both of these brands. On the other hand, within selected brands (e.g., S&W, Walther, Glock, HK), Target Sports has a very good selection of firearms and a great selection of rentals, so it's a good place to look around. In addition, as the previous poster indicated, the range at Target Sports is quite nice, far nicer than Double Action.

Another store to put on your radar is Action Impact in Southfield. Their prices are high too (or maybe I'm just cheap, because I seem to believe that everyone's prices are high), but they have a pretty good selection, both in terms of brand and in terms of particular firearms within brands. Last time I was in there, they had a whole case dedicated to subcompact semiautos from a variety of different manufacturers, which made comparing quite easy. In addition, the sales person with whom I spoke seemed to be quite knowledgable, quite helpful, and not at all like the stereotypical "gunshop guy". But, if I remember correctly (and I may not be), I believe you have to buy their ammo to use on their range, which can get expensive.

Of course, all of this is just my opinion, and your mileage may vary.
 
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Goffman is correct in terms of prices. I do not buy locally for that reason and have purchased 33 times from Auction Arms, online, without a glitch. I had forgotten completely about Action Impact and, again, Goffman is correct - more choices in the wee guns, semi-auto... not so much in the J-frame revolvers.

If you drive over and make a day of it, visit both places. Make the day special by making it "her day" and do not rush the decision. I addition, make a list of the .380's you think she might be interested in and then go on AuctionArms and write down their "Buy It Now" prices for each gun + the shipping charge. That will at least give you an idea if you can beat the local prices. Based on extensive discussions with shooters all over the country, I conclude that Michigan prices are amongst the highest in the nation...

Goffman... thanks for your complete and detailed input on this. You are dead on with everything I read! What range do you use? We may bump into each other!!!
 
Let her choose her own, or she'll probably never embrace it nor have it on her when trouble comes. In other words, a wasted purchase.

I read "The Cornered Cat" then had my wife read it and then we discussed things.

I took the Cornered Cat's advice about how to let her try out the guns properly.

I let her shoot everything I had and my assumptions were wrong about what I thought she'd like.

She ended up shooting and liking my 3" S&W revolvers best . . . and she now has her CCW and her very own 3" S&W Airweight J frame, a nice, vintage Model 37. She shoots it amazingly well too and has confidence in the gun.

Life is good!!!
 
Having taught several women to shoot a few observations:

1) Let her choose. We have gone through several pistols with my wife and she has settled on a .38 spl Bodyguard. She couldn't learn to control a DAO (weak hand muscalature), then a SA tired her hand. The Bodyguard was a good compromise.
2) Get her a good purse, or she won't carry it.
3) Bicycle gloves. Protects her hands.
4) DO NOT try to magnumize her. Standard velocity 38s are fine (We carry 158gr HP semi-wadcutters-the old FBI load.)
5) Talking to the Rangemaster just yesterday-he's heard a lot of people complain about the LCRs recoil.
6) He was suggesting that we start at 2 yards with a silhouette target, then go to 4 yards after she gets a good grouping developed, and work out from there.(My wife shoots Ruger SAs well but not her snubby)
 
My wife started with a 3" M36 but didn't like the feel. Her daily carry is now an M&P 9C and she keeps a 1911 in her desk drawer. During our weekly date at the range, she does enjoy putting a few .357 rounds through my HP and she is considering a Sig .380 for a pocket gun.

Funny thing, when I show her the respect I would my best friend, she becomes my best friend. With "benefits". ;)
 
Funny thing, when I show her the respect I would my best friend, she becomes my best friend. With "benefits". ;)

This is what I'm discovering.

I just told her safety wasn't negotiable.

We are at baby step #1... All .22 caliber, all the time.

And I forget sometimes how fun and cheap .22 can be...

If she never shoots/carries anything other than a .22 snubby revolver, it's a real enjoyment having her with me and participating.
 
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My wife likes her S&W 442 with pink Crimson Trace grips.

BTW: With target ammo, the little 442 does not "kick" that bad. My wife is somewhat recoil sensitive but she will shoot right along with me during our range sessions. She has shot the Hornady Critical Defense +P loads to see where they print but +P loads do have a sharper recoil so those are saved for serious work.
 
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If she doesn't like the kick of a 5609 then I don't think she is going to like the kick of the bodyguard or any other .38 snub nose 5 shot. Maybe a model 10 in a 3 inch barrel would fit her wheel or even a 3 inch model 19 loaded in .38spl.
 
I took my wife to the range and let her shoot several handguns. She tried a Sig P230 .380, S&W j-frame 640 .38, Glock 19 9mm, and a Colt Python .357 (shooting .38's). The Python had the least recoil shooting the .38's and she liked shooting it the best. I'm considering getting something like a Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel for her to try.

On the other hand, my daughter ended up liking the Glock and she bought one for herself.

Bottom line, let her try a bunch of different guns and she'll find one she likes.
 
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