Mystery Gun- What is it?

Jim,

The 1899 was a production model, but to my knowledge only with a round butt. The gun in the "teaser" photo (post #353) is the first square butt I have seen without the barrel lug. Prototype or transitional?

Bob
 
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Jim,

The 1899 was a production model, but to my knowledge only with a round butt. The gun in the "teaser" photo (post #353) is the first square butt I have seen without the barrel lug. Prototype or transitional?

Bob

Bob,
First, have you seen all the photos of the mys gun in post 150?

The mys gun can't be a transitional, it was never in production.
It's not like an 1899, it's not even a double action but it prototypes several features of the 1899 and other models with and w/o square butt like the 1896.
 
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red9,
The gun shown in post #353 is the "mystery gun" under discussion. The "new items" asked about are the other things in the picture.
 
Full disclosure: In addition to being a SWCA member, I am also a CCA (Colt Collector's Association) member. :eek: (I suspect there are actually quite a few multi-denominational folks here.)

The publication of the CCA is called The Rampant Colt and in the Winter 2012 issue, there is an article titled "Stick To Your Guns!" by Don Shoji. It relates to the question of authenticity of oddball one-of items. Here are a couple of quotes: "Dick always said that you can question one; if you saw a second one you better pay attention; and if you saw a third on you could say that there were several manufactured." He then relates a story about a factory Colt conversion unit for switching a Service Model Ace from .22LR to .45ACP. Yes you read that right, from .22 to .45, not the other way around.

Later he talks about finding a .22 New Frontier, except it wasn't .22, it was a .32. He thought that it was some kind of conversion but then later on found that Colt had actually made a couple of .32 New Frontiers. He says, "The same thing could happen to you. These special guns from the Colt's Archives had been released through the Greg Martin Auctions. I personally went to preview the guns in the auction, and after seeing all the prototypes and experimental guns they had, I can tell you that Colt's tried all kinds of strange things, with all kinds of guns. Different calibers (.40 S&W auto chambered in a revolver), strange finishes, extended grip frames, the list goes on and on. Just because you (or anyone else) has never seen one before, doesn't mean it can't exist." (emphasis added)

Anyway, I just thought this seemed possibly applicable to the Mystery Gun. No telling what S&W has built that never saw the light of day outside the factory. Hopefully we'll see some updates on the MG in the coming year.
 
Hey Guys- What up?

Just thought that I would resurrect this thread to hear myself pontificate;););)

Update: Professional high quality photos were taken and sent yesterday via USPS to a secret, undisclosed location for vetting. Hopefully, some of the questions will be answered...

Cheers

Mike
 
Update: Professional high quality photos were taken and sent yesterday via USPS to a secret, undisclosed location for vetting. Hopefully, some of the questions will be answered...
Mike,

Thanks for the newest update!!

Let's just hope the secret, undisclosed location isn't so secret & undisclosed that we'll never hear if the "Mystery" is solved or not.....Ha!!~Ha!!
 
A most distinguished gentleman from the S&W community is talking w/ the owner of the MG. Not my place to spread rumors, but it wasn't built in a Pakistani cave. Sorry for the cryptic double speak- but I do not want to spoil anything.

Mike
 
Not my place to spread rumors, but it wasn't built in a Pakistani cave.
Mike,

Whew!! I think I can speak for many in saying I'm glad to hear the person that started this rumor wasn't correct or we'd have never heard the end of it for all eternity....Ha!!~Ha!!

In all seriousness though, it sounds like they're getting close & I can hardly wait to hear the final outcome as I'm sure many here are!!

Once again, I really appreciate you keeping such close tabs on this for us....Thanks!!
 
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