Naming Contest is on

[wheelgun28]

My guess is they would name them just as the people they so badly want to be used to.

I present to you The glorious People's Army Base 34.

Yes, comrades rejoice in knowing your base is now for the people!

 

[Sistema1927]

One of the wisest things done during Reconstruction was the naming of southern US military bases after Southern leaders. This was an act of reconciliation. Look at some of the post-war veteran gatherings that included both former Federals and Confederates. These were times of healing when former adversaries joined each other in remembering their shared experience and the loss of their companions in battle.

Reconstruction, in many ways, was a total mess, but not on this point.

You do not heal the errors of the past by erasing them. Today's Marxist, anarchist forces don't give a tinkers damn about slavery, or even BLM, their goal is the abolition of American history. R.E. Lee today, George Washington tomorrow, and eventually A. Lincoln. Don't be fooled.

 

[Pig Hunter]

The winners have been trying to change history since wining the war. If you dig a little you will find Lincoln wanted to ship all blacks, free or former slaves to Africa or the Caribbean. Before the war, Civil or War of Northern Aggression, it was state law in Illinois blacks were not allowed to be there over night. The radical Republicans wanted to strengthen and increase the power of the Federal Gov't. , the southern Democrats wanted to maintain a states rights system. My how things change!

 

[Kurusu]

Just heard on Fox news that they're also trying to encourage people to eliminate certain books from their shelves, e.g. Gone with the Wind, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc.

Hmmm. My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but didn't some bozo over in Germany start doing something like that in 1933?

Your memory is still good.

And I will add. Look also for "doctored photos" of the soviet union. And you will all find out some people "vanishing" from History.

Sides of the same coin.

 

[Kurusu]

Next thing that you know we'll scrap the USS Missouri to keep from offending Japan.

God forbid.


Edit. At least they cannot sink BB-39... again

 

[Old Arkansawyer]

Don't forget that General Grant's wife owned at least one slave after
the war between the states. Finally freed after Missouri voted to
emancipate slaves in Jan. 1865 and kept her one,"maid", after that
who may or may not have been paid.
So maybe Grant's name should be removed from the public places.
Do Not take this to mean that I endorse any form of servitude then
or now.

 

[keith44spl]

A man without heritage, is a man without guidance

For me and my family, we shall fly the Bonnie Blue.




.

 

[Grayfox]

Ok, I know full well that every time the Civil War comes up here, the thread gets locked. So I'll try to tread lightly.
What most people believe about the history of the South and the Confederacy is total BS. Yes, they did have slaves. But it was a common, normal and accepted practice back then. Slavery wouldn't have lasted much longer and would have died out on its own in time. Many, many Southerners opposed the practice.
The South was about a culture, a way of life and a good people. It centered on things like family, honor, good manners and generally being nice to one another.
You want to talk about prejudice? Try being a Southern American who takes pride in his heritage. Then seeing the history of your people vilified, trashed, lied about and erased from history because stupid people put more faith in Hollywood than facts.
In this country, liberals want to preach taking pride in diversity and heritage for all races. Unless, of course, you happen to be a Southern American. In which case you are automatically assumed to be a stupid, prejudiced red neck.
The worst mistake you can make in the study of history is to judge the past by the standards of today.

 

[dockmurgw]

Do not ever underestimate the power progressive PC holds over today's society.

 

[LittleCooner]

Ok, I know full well that every time the Civil War comes up here, the thread gets locked. So I'll try to tread lightly.
What most people believe about the history of the South and the Confederacy is total BS. Yes, they did have slaves. But it was a common, normal and accepted practice back then. Slavery wouldn't have lasted much longer and would have died out on its own in time. Many, many Southerners opposed the practice.
The South was about a culture, a way of life and a good people. It centered on things like family, honor, good manners and generally being nice to one another.
You want to talk about prejudice? Try being a Southern American who takes pride in his heritage. Then seeing the history of your people vilified, trashed, lied about and erased from history because stupid people put more faith in Hollywood than facts.
In this country, liberals want to preach taking pride in diversity and heritage for all races. Unless, of course, you happen to be a Southern American. In which case you are automatically assumed to be a stupid, prejudiced red neck.
The worst mistake you can make in the study of history is to judge the past by the standards of today.

Grayfox sums up my feelings. I am all into genealogy, preserving graveyards of my ancestors and their family history and I am a southern with all of my family tree going back to the very roots in the early 1600's in the south, being the shores of Virginia. Almost everyone I am related to was in the Civil war, and yes they fought for the southern cause. These people who are tearing down history do not care about anything but erasing history. Many southern men died on their home soil in the 1860's and they just disappeared from history, never buried, left to be ravaged by the animals and the sun, These monuments by the Daughters of the Confederacy were placed 40-50 years after the conflict for a mass memorial tombstone for their brothers, fathers and husbands who had been erased from knowing where they were buried or when they died. It actually brings tears to my eyes to see each morning another monument has been destroyed, because I look at them as a tombstone and wonder, what did a person who lived 160 years ago ever do to you? This is about changing our history and destroying the morals and principles our country was founded upon. This is one of the most sad times of my life I have had to endure.

 

[DWalt]

Just heard on Fox news that they're also trying to encourage people to eliminate certain books from their shelves, e.g. Gone with the Wind, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc.

Hmmm. My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but didn't some bozo over in Germany start doing something like that in 1933?

Not just books but movies, starting with Gone With The Wind by HBO. And a long list of other movies which don't pass the test.

 

[steveno]

I wonder what they will think of "Blazing Saddles"?

 

[BAM-BAM]

" America's original sin" ????????

It's been decades but I don't recall the folks in Va. saying "Let's sail over to Africa and get us some slaves!"

More like Portuguese traders (The Pope split the World between Spain and Portugal in the early 16th century) "I've got some slaves here from a hot place who can work the sugarcane fields of the Spanish Main..... later to work in the tobacco and cotton fields of the South.

Arab "traders/slavers" raided and enslaved ...... then sold their slaves in the markets of Zanzibar as early as the 7th Century ........ later in the 16th Century we got the western Slave, Ivory and Gold Coast trade.

 

[Onomea]

Bonnie Blue Flag

An interesting history of the Bonnie Blue Flag here: Bonnie Blue Flag - Wikipedia

I didn’t know any of that.

 

[kraynky]

I'm pretty sure I heard that Trump basically said "Forget it" when it comes to re-naming our military bases. I sure do like his attitude about this whining about Confederate this and Confederate that. Good Grief! It's part of our Country's history, and heritage to many Americans. Only the MSM made it a racial thing, (like they do to everything). I'm so sick of the MSM I only watch the local channel for my morning weather report.

They get my blood pressure to spiking and I start grumbling and muttering. The wife comes in the room and switches it to a western movie, it's like sticking a pacifier in a baby's mouth when they start getting fussy. MSM is not good for my health, and it's certainly not good for our Country's health!

 

[dave1918a2]

Mount Rushmore will be on the list. Maybe not in My lifetime, but They will find a way.

 

[Old_Cop]

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia

 

[Grayfox]

I'm pretty sure I heard that Trump basically said "Forget it" when it comes to re-naming our military bases.

Yep, Trump said outright that it ain't gonna happen.

However, the proposal is already working its way through Congress with Elisabeth Warren leading the charge.

I wonder how our soldiers feel about this? I suspect they won't be at all happy about it.

 

[Golddollar]

It's like they were never there!
After all, they were planning on just passing through!



Just a small sleepy town with 5* (IIRC) crossroads; where they made shoes!!


*Harrisburg,York,Chambersburg, Emmitsburg and the Baltimore Pike

Don't forget Hanover, Carlisle and Frederick

 

[glowe]

I've never really understood why US military bases were named after Confederates. Seems a bit odd to me. Yeah, I know most of them served in the US military before secession, but still.

I think I'm okay with them changing the names if that's what they decide to do.

And before you ask, yes, I'm a native Texan and VERY conservative.

I guess that those who have not served their country will never understand the profound respect that can be had for your military enemies. Especially when they were American military men. Lee was a brilliant General, along with many other brave Confederates, misguided as they were.

We never want to repeat the Civil War and the best way for that not to happen is to know your history, teach it to your children, embrace freedom of choice, and live your life without selfishness. We used to be a country ruled by the majority, but lately our news media sees it differently.