Navy - Marine Comparison

Oh yeah, speaking of Navy vs Marine Corps rivalry. I'd like to give a shout out to CPO3 Walter Hale. He and I had the toughest fist fight I was ever in, BC Street in Koza, Okinawa. We spent 2 days in the brig for that one, got released and then spent the remaining 3 days of our R&R getting drunk together.

we went back In Country at the same time. he was a Corpsman and I never heard from him again. His name isn't on the wall so I guess he made it home.

Bob
 
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Voyager28 said:
The only thing I will say is that the parts of the Nam I was operating in I never saw any "Navy" guys. Unless you count those A-6 pilots that bailed my butt out more than once. :)

Also, I had a real affinity for a couple of USAF Birds, call signs "Puff The Magic Dragon" and "Spooky". Lord, how the gooks would run whenever Spooky showed up. :)

Also really liked those big guns on the New Jersey. Called in a few fire missions to them. They could put those big azz rounds right in your shirt pocket.

Bob
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I liked the "stinger" aircraft, No flares, just 20mm Vulcan mini guns on one side of the aircraft, only downside was they had to orbit you position and would not shoot over friendlies, in case of short rds..
For close support the OV-10 was the cats azz...
I called in Naval gunfire, 16"ers..ONCE, only ONCE..Their accuracy sucked...Check Fire ! End Of Mission !!!
My favorite arty was the 155 or 8" Self Propelled...Talk about accurate and quite a selection of rds...
 
My father was in the First Division - U.S. Army on June 6th. 1944 and he told me that he had no love for the Navy because of the ride over to England from the "States" and the across the channel to France. Then he stopped for a minute, and then said, "but I'll tell you this...I would not be here today if it were not for the U.S. Navy Destroyers that darn near ran up on the beach to give us covering fire. After that happened it all broke loose and I thought I would live to see another day at least. The destroyers may not have been on the beach - but when I looked back it sure looked like it. I don't think any of us that survived would have a bad word for those guys , at least not in front of the First Infantry and I suspect the same would be the case for the 29th. Infantry." BZ - Navy.
 
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I retired from the Army, so I don't have a dog in this Navy vs. Marine fracas. A good friend who is retired Navy, explained about the Navy Marine relationship. He related that the Marines are the only service that does not have it's own university. Therefore, Marines are usually poorly educutated and not very bright. The Navy uses Marines as servants for ships captains, Marines drive the Navy officers' staff cars, Marines are used as body guards for Navy officers, and they patrol the fence around Navy installations and watch over the gate. All in all he explained, Marines serve as the servant class for the better educated and elite Navy personel. I have also been told that a sailor will never lie to you.
 
"I called in Naval gunfire, 16"ers..ONCE, only ONCE..Their accuracy sucked...Check Fire ! End Of Mission !!!
My favorite arty was the 155 or 8" Self Propelled...Talk about accurate and quite a selection of rds... "

So, the big "J" was so bad...
The VC moved the Ho Chi Minh trail in land 50 Mi while the N.J. was on station...... :)
 
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The only thing I will say is that the parts of the Nam I was operating in I never saw any "Navy" guys.
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Did you ever run into any corpsmen?

I spent the last two years of my service (71 - 73) at Cherry Point, NC (I was a corpsman.) I have to say, I was well treated. :)
 
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Voyager28 said:
Oh yeah, speaking of Navy vs Marine Corps rivalry. I'd like to give a shout out to CPO3 Walter Hale. He and I had the toughest fist fight I was ever in, BC Street in Koza, Okinawa. We spent 2 days in the brig for that one, got released and then spent the remaining 3 days of our R&R getting drunk together.
Bob
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BC street in Koza. Was there many times in a drunken stupor. BTW did you ever meet Kimiko at the Club Champion?
 
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It didn't help.........

OLDNAVYMCPO said:
About 1965, if my old memory is even close, I was at England Air Force Base in La with a task force group from each of the services to work with Air Commandos on close air support. Apparently the Air Force General Le May was ticked-off about the quality of close air support being provided to troops in Viet Nam. After the first day's efforts by each service, Lemay shows up on the flight line in his tricked out WW II bomber and commences to ream the troops over their failure to get on the ground with their runs. The Marines were flying Phantoms, the next flight, they returned to the line with pine limbs stuck in their tailhooks. Any lower was not an option, those dudes are serious warriors. As a Seabee, I've had ample opportunity to spend quality time with my Marine brothers, always hardcore and professional.
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It didn't help that the bomb sight was designed to deliver nuclear weapons.
 
GKC said:
Did you ever run into any corpsmen?

I spent the last two years of my service (71 - 73) at Cherry Point, NC (I was a corpsman.) I have to say, I was well treated. :)
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No. Lots of times I wish I had. Usually I was with only 6-8 men at a time and not many people knew where we were or what we were up to.

I had a LOT of respect for the Devil Docs and there were a few times I really wished one was near by. but, that wasn't the game we were playing.

Bob
 
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BC street in Koza. Was there many times in a drunken stupor. BTW did you ever meet Kimiko at the Club Champion?
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I was on Oki twice. the first time on R&R in 1967 and the second time med-evac to the hospital in Kadena in 1968. During the R&R trip (when I met CPO3 Hale) I could have met my mother in Koza and I wouldn't have remembered it. :)

Bob
 
Voyager28 said:
The only thing I will say is that the parts of the Nam I was operating in I never saw any "Navy" guys. Unless you count those A-6 pilots that bailed my butt out more than once. :)

Also, I had a real affinity for a couple of USAF Birds, call signs "Puff The Magic Dragon" and "Spooky". Lord, how the gooks would run whenever Spooky showed up. :)

Also really liked those big guns on the New Jersey. Called in a few fire missions to them. They could put those big azz rounds right in your shirt pocket.

Bob
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Had a nasty little DI at Parris Island tell us that the only Navy ship he had respect for was the New Jersey. He said it shot shells as big as Volkswagens and rearranged grid squares.

I was treated very well on the USS Tortuga though.
 
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