Need a little help - 1911 or NG 327

[vjp]

I know this is in the revolver section but I feel that I can get honest opinions from you guys.

My wife won't touch a semi-auto so I started gathering S&W revolvers. I have an opportunity to trade my Springfield Champion Operator for a NG 327 plus a little boot. I like the 1911 a lot but I don't carry it and nobody else in my family will shoot it. We will all shoot revolvers.

Am I crazy for thinking about this trade??

 

[targetchief]

Yep, that would be crazy. If you want another revolver make a cash deal. Every handgun guy needs at least 1 1911. As a bonus it sounds like you don't have to share yours.

 

[scooter123]

I agree with the above. Trading off a very good 1911 for something as harsh shooting as a 327 NG seems to be a rather foolish thing to consider. BTW, I am absolutely NOT a fan of the 357 Magnum in a revolver as light as the 325 NG. I also find the 1911 rather easy to conceal in an IWB holster and cannot say the same for an N frame revolver of any barrel length.

 

[vjp]

Thanks for the honest comments. I know nothing about the NG models.

 

[jessegpresley]

No woman is going to want to shoot a 327NG.

A 627 or 686 would be much better choices. The NG series are meant to be carried often, shot little.

And every collection does need at least one 1911.

 

[Horace & Daniel]

Don't make that trade. You will always regret that one. Has your wife had much revolver-shooting experience? The NG 237 seems like an overly large revolver for a lady, especially one she might CC. I would think a j-frame in +P 38 would do the trick and be carried much easier. You can pick up a new S&W 642 NL for less than $400. That's the way I'd go.

Do NOT trade your 1911 for a 237. Bad deal.

 

[vjp]

I really appreciate all of your comments. I have a model 15-3 for her to shoot and she loves it. I never intended to give her the 327. I like to shoot with my wife and 2 daughters, they are comfortable with revolvers. For some reason the wife gets extremely nervous around a semi-auto, nervous to the point of losing interest in shooting, which is why I considered the trade. Money wise it's even considering the price of both guns with the cash kicked in by the other party. I did search for my 1911 for a couple of months and haven't seen one like it for sale since. I originally contemplated trading the 1911 for a revolver chambered for .45acp due to my stock of ammo and the fact that I want my family to be comfortable with any gun in the house. The 327 was just something that I ran across and thought it would be great to have 8 rounds of .357 magnum and a front night sight.

 

[BobR1]

I concure with all above. I am down to a single Centerfire semi auto. A Custom Colt 1911. I do not shoot it a lot, but it's not for sale either.
I have a 310 Night Guard. Like was said above great carry gun, not so great to shoot very much. I will guarantee the wife won't shoot it.

My wifes house gun is a 4" Power Custom Combat 686-1 with a Clark Moon Clip Conversion.
My daughter-in-laws house gun is a 4" HB 64 worked on by Ron Power a little. Sweet Gun.
My neighbor gal has a 4" Model 10 I found for her years ago.

I have something like 13 Revolvers, and 2 semi autoes counting my Ruger MK III Hunter. Keep your 1911. If you want a Night Guard save up for it. Down the road you will wish you had kept the 1911.

Bob

 

[vjp]

I know how much everyone likes pictures, so from the left clockwise: Model 64 born in 1979, Model 686, Model 25 Classic, Model 15 born in 1973, Governor (responsible for my revolver fever) and in the center is my Springfield 1911 Champion Operator.

Thanks again for the advice, you guys just helped me to not make a bad decision.

 

[Grayfox]

DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT sell the Springfield! The Operator is one of Springer's top of the line 1911s. And Champion Operators are hard to come by. Everybody should have a 1911 and your's is about as good as they get. Selling that gun would be a serious mistake.

 

[jessegpresley]

DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT sell the Springfield! The Operator is one of Springer's top of the line 1911s. And Champion Operators are hard to come by. Everybody should have a 1911 and your's is about as good as they get. Selling that gun would be a serious mistake.

"Operator" is just Springfield Armory-speak for a 1911 with a picatinny rail. And "Champion" means it's Commander sized. But it sounds like a nice little carry 1911. Is it aluminum framed?

 

[WC145]

There's no rule that says you have to have a 1911 in the stable. The Springfield, while a nice gun, is not all that special as jesse pointed out, nothing you can't get again. If you're not shooting it and all it does is gather dust then turn it into something you want that you'll get some use out of. I own a bunch of 1911s and, in addition to other revolvers, a 327NG and I carry the NG more than most of my other guns. It's a great field and working around the property gun. Yes, full house magnums are harsh but they are in damn near everything. The gun weighs 32oz loaded with 135gr mags, the same as an empty 2.5" k-frame, so it's not the lightweight some would lead you to think. It is, however, a well balanced piece that is quite accurate and a pleasure to shoot with .38s making it a decent range gun if you reserve the mags for carry.

 

[627 city hunter]

Nightguard 310, 327, or 325. The 310 seems a bit harder to find though.

 

[Greenbeanie67]

I'd vote for keeping the 1911, and getting the NG 327. You can never have enough good weapons. Not in this day and time at least.

 

[STCM(SW)]

If I can CC easy, it's my Kimber Pro carry II, other wise it's a S&W Chief, Colt Cobra or M64 2".

N frame revolvers in .45 ACP don't hide well in a slim person.

 

[YankeeWheelgun]

There's no rule that says you have to have a 1911 in the stable. The Springfield, while a nice gun, is not all that special as jesse pointed out, nothing you can't get again. If you're not shooting it and all it does is gather dust then turn it into something you want that you'll get some use out of. I own a bunch of 1911s and, in addition to other revolvers, a 327NG and I carry the NG more than most of my other guns. It's a great field and working around the property gun. Yes, full house magnums are harsh but they are in damn near everything. The gun weighs 32oz loaded with 135gr mags, the same as an empty 2.5" k-frame, so it's not the lightweight some would lead you to think. It is, however, a well balanced piece that is quite accurate and a pleasure to shoot with .38s making it a decent range gun if you reserve the mags for carry.

What he said I realize you're supposed to get all worked up over 1911s, but I've shot them and to me they're just another semi-auto, don't own one.

The NightGuards are indeed harsher than a 686, and if it's for a nightstand/range gun, a 686 is the better choice.

But if it's to be carried, a 686 is not a feather on the hip (or in the pocketbook). NightGuards have a stainless steel cylinder and a 2.5-inch barrel, and are still heavier and softer shooting than most J-frames, and the 327 you're looking at has 3 more rounds to boot plus night sights.

These guns give you the capacity of a K,L, or N- frame in a small, lightweight package, but unlike earlier S&W experiments with scandium revolvers, these have a steel cylinder so that the weight works out to be just a little more than a 3-inch steel J-frame (24-29oz depending on model). That weight is a great compromise between carryability and shootability.

The N-frame cylinder is kind of thick for IWB carry, so if that's the main goal, I'd look at the K,L frame models instead, otherwise, give this one a try.

 

[georgepittenger]

I have a S&W 1911 and really like it . I wouldn't trade it for a 327 .
That said , I also have a 327NG and REALLY like it . It has a nice heft but weighs about the same as my Model 19 snubbie .
For me it fits my hand perfectly . More natural than the 19 .
The advantage of 8 rounds and night sight sold me on this gun .
But what surprised me is how accurate it can be . For any SD distance it will easily do the job .
And call me crazy , but I don't find it harsh at all . My 19yo daughter enjoys shooting it also .
It is a tad larger than the 19 , but I have no trouble carrying in a Simply Rugged pancake .
What's not to like ?

Regards ,
George

 

[BoDog]

Take the money you were going to spend on the revolver and spend it on a class at Thunder Ranch. You will find you can do things with a good !911 that are amazing. Seilor & Berlot makes the green ammo Clint now requires.
I thought I was good with a 1911 after 20 years with one , Clint showed me a more efficient way to run one.

 

[rrobertson]

Dont Get Rid Of The 1911!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[vjp]

"Operator" is just Springfield Armory-speak for a 1911 with a picatinny rail. And "Champion" means it's Commander sized. But it sounds like a nice little carry 1911. Is it aluminum framed?

Yes it is a light weight.