Need help with 4506 no dash

[amazingflapjack]

Hi everyone-I recently bought a 4506, and took it to the range for the first time today. Two concerns resulted: the single action trigger seems to have an acre of "take up" in it. More than any hand gun I have ever handled, the best part of a half inch in travel at the end of the trigger. The trigger goes almost all of the way to the frame before there is any resistance at all, so that when you finally get it to shoot, it is an awkward feeling, resulting in poor consistancy. Is there something I can do, or is this a S&W only situation? There is a very mild "click" or catch just before you finally get to the place where it will actually shoot. Also, of a lesser concern, the rear adjustable sight, which may be a Millet (SP) is all the way down, and still shoots quite high. I would appreciate all helpful comments. Thanks, Flapjack.

 

[Rule3]

Probably the same as this.

Do not push to much all at once. Push a little and see how it is, then more if needed.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-smithing/130495-trigger-pull-click-sa-4566tsw.html

 

[amazingflapjack]

Rule-thanks-just to be clear, are we talking about pushing forward on the area where the two little ears stick up from the brass thing? Thanks, Flapjack.

 

[PHB]

Yes very easy push the brass ears forward and back down on the trigger

Hope this helps

 

[amazingflapjack]

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Flapjack.

 

[amazingflapjack]

I tried, but...

I pushed those little ears forward, and the "catch" or "click" does seem to have gone away, but are these guns supposed to have this much take up in single action? I can't imagine a double tap with this gun. All help is appreciated. Thanks, Flapjack.

 

[SW CQB 45]

SW DA/SA triggers have to be mastered for proper follow up in SA after the initial DA stroke and fire.

After the gun is fired, and still holding the trigger to the rear.....

Slowly release the trigger to the point of reset (the felt/heard click) and then stop.

Your trigger is ready for the next shot. Repeat.

I have seen many folks with a DA/SA come all the way forward and finger comes off the trigger for any follow up shots.

Once you have mastered this reset....your dbls...tripls....full mags will be fast....no wasted time and accuracy will improve with a firm steady grip and proper marksmanship techniques are followed.

DA/SA are sometimes hard to master...but once you get the hang of it....its a nice trigger system.

Happy shootin!

 

[amazingflapjack]

S&W Doubles

Thanks for your response. I have owned a model 59 for over 20 years, and my experience with it is as you describe, but not with this gun. There is a lot of take up in single. So much so that the bottom of the trigger travels a half inch or more on the way to where it will fire, which is right against the frame, and very awkward. I find myself wrestling to get enough gun in my large hand to get the trigger to break, and it is not a very clean brake, you have to be very deliberate. Please advise-anyone. Thanks, Flapjack.

 

[SoulLessGinger]

I'm a trigger Nazi, and imo, the 3rd gen S&W autos have a great trigger, provided your trigger return spring is in good working order.

You need more range time. The reason you have so much take up in single action is because you are letting the trigger come all the way forward after firing.

Most auto shooters ride the reset. Some very experienced, very fast shooters will let it all the way out, but that is advanced stuff, and since you're asking this question, you are probably not doing it intentionally.

Here's the trick: First shot is double action...no brainer. However, an inexperienced auto shooter will stop as soon as the shot goes off and let the trigger go all the way out, instead of following through. What should happen, is when the shot breaks, you should continue the pull to its stop, or close to it anyways. Then you release the trigger only until you feel the click of the trigger resetting itself. That is as far as you go. The next pull from there will be very short.

Good luck.