setxn
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Hope the A.S.P.C.A. doesn't read this thread because someone is beating that dead horse again.
Never ever complain about the trigger on the Sigma!!!
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Sleddog30
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Pardon while I hijack this thread for a moment.
This forum gets a LARGE number of I hate sigma trolls. There are threads, like this one http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-sigma-pistols/134410-looks-like-my-no-clean-experiment-will-cut-short.html, that had a couple of trolls post to it.
It appears the non-simga folks seem to take much joy at downing the sigma. And so we get senitive about it. If we were to post negative comments about a glock on the glock forum the same thing would happen.
My feelings are if you don't/didn't own one, have shot less than a couple of hundred rounds with one you may not be the best judge of what the weapon does or does not do well.
Can you get an impression of what it does or is doing firing just a few rounds, yes. Does that mean you are correct on the overall performance of the weapon, no. Should you post your opinion, yes (but explain the experience behind it). Were there problems with previous models, yes. Does that reputation linger today, yes. And that's probably where much of it comes from.
To the folks that don't like sigmas, that's just fine. But don't post crap just to stir the pot. Post your experience with it, the hows and whys. We'll listen. But if you post stuff like "that's why all my autos are Glock and 1911s" it tells us you are not a sigma owner, that you have no experience with the weapon, and are just posting to get a reaction.
Ok, back the issue at hand...
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We had a family friend who had a Lamborghini Countach and he used to complain about the clutch being heavy when he'd talk about it.
As a kid, I always thought, "Is this guy nuts? He's got this dream car and he's complaining about the clutch being too heavy? What's his problem?" Despite the clutch, he loved his car and had every right to complain about the clutch, because he paid a lot of money for that privilege.
That said, I have a Sigma in 40S&W. In my opinion, the trigger blows...it's too long. That said, I won't sell or trade it because I've adjusted to it and otherwise love it.
A thing doesn't have to be perfect to be appreciated, is my point.
As a kid, I always thought, "Is this guy nuts? He's got this dream car and he's complaining about the clutch being too heavy? What's his problem?" Despite the clutch, he loved his car and had every right to complain about the clutch, because he paid a lot of money for that privilege.
That said, I have a Sigma in 40S&W. In my opinion, the trigger blows...it's too long. That said, I won't sell or trade it because I've adjusted to it and otherwise love it.
A thing doesn't have to be perfect to be appreciated, is my point.
.357 mag
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The Sigma was my first handgun. I believe the Sigma is the reason why I can shoot DA guns so well.(Not to mention SA's)
I think everyone knows that the Sigma is here to stay.
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I have no problem with the trigger at all....it was smooth with just a few dry fires to break things in a bit. I have DA revolvers and had no transition problems at all....wasen't even a thought really. The bashers will never go away....it's just their nature. Prolly bullies in school too!
spricks
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Wow guys I'm sorry I didn't intend for this thread to go this way. I agree my sigma makes me a much better shooter.
I just wanted to post that my friend's H&K (Customs Dept Supplied or tax payer supplied is a better term, it was not a purchase he wanted) was not shooter friendly. (see mom I can be PC).
To be honest it is really a hard, long pull. I was just so surprised that there are so many beatings about the Sigma that the H&K makes it feel like a Python. Please if anyone has the chance to feel the P2000 let me know if I'm right.
I said this before when the Sigma isn't made anymore everyone will say: what a great gun it went bang every time, good accuracy, held 14 in the mag and was priced right. WHY DID S&W STOP MAKING IT!
I feel that H&K might get a pass because it is a big European name (it has to be engineer better) and nearly 250% more money so it has to be great. Even the mag release was some odd thing that you had to slide down.
Joe
I just wanted to post that my friend's H&K (Customs Dept Supplied or tax payer supplied is a better term, it was not a purchase he wanted) was not shooter friendly. (see mom I can be PC).
To be honest it is really a hard, long pull. I was just so surprised that there are so many beatings about the Sigma that the H&K makes it feel like a Python. Please if anyone has the chance to feel the P2000 let me know if I'm right.
I said this before when the Sigma isn't made anymore everyone will say: what a great gun it went bang every time, good accuracy, held 14 in the mag and was priced right. WHY DID S&W STOP MAKING IT!
I feel that H&K might get a pass because it is a big European name (it has to be engineer better) and nearly 250% more money so it has to be great. Even the mag release was some odd thing that you had to slide down.
Joe
Quigar57
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Let's not forget that the Sigma was and is used as a service weapon. It does not have any safety other than the trigger and the person holding it. The long hard trigger pull is designed that way to reduce accidental shootings.
I know a police officer personally who has witnessed the benefits of a long trigger on a service weapon. The officer and his partner got into a firefight with a perp. The officer was on the drivers side of the car with his partner on the passenger side. The perp began firing at them from their 4 o'clock position. The officers got out and opened fire. The officer on the passenger side decided to move to the other side so as to put the car between him and the perp. when he did he came around the door and into the line of fire of the officer on the drivers side. The only thing that kept the officer from taking a slug to the head was the long trigger pull. I know this officer and heard the story directly from him and he said that he had the trigger 1/2 way back when his partner moved in front of him and he says every time that if that weapon had a short trigger his partner would have been dead. These officers were not using Sigmas but, Beretta 96d Brigadiers. The Berettas have since been retired and replace with Glocks. My father purchased one of the retired weapons that doesn't look like it was ever issued and I can attest to the trigger pull on the being much worse than on my Sigma but I understand why it is the way it is and I'm ok with it.
I know a police officer personally who has witnessed the benefits of a long trigger on a service weapon. The officer and his partner got into a firefight with a perp. The officer was on the drivers side of the car with his partner on the passenger side. The perp began firing at them from their 4 o'clock position. The officers got out and opened fire. The officer on the passenger side decided to move to the other side so as to put the car between him and the perp. when he did he came around the door and into the line of fire of the officer on the drivers side. The only thing that kept the officer from taking a slug to the head was the long trigger pull. I know this officer and heard the story directly from him and he said that he had the trigger 1/2 way back when his partner moved in front of him and he says every time that if that weapon had a short trigger his partner would have been dead. These officers were not using Sigmas but, Beretta 96d Brigadiers. The Berettas have since been retired and replace with Glocks. My father purchased one of the retired weapons that doesn't look like it was ever issued and I can attest to the trigger pull on the being much worse than on my Sigma but I understand why it is the way it is and I'm ok with it.
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roaddog28
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I agree. Again if you cut your teeth on shooting a revolver D/A fast then the Sigmas won't be a problem. I am as accurate with my Sigma as with my revolvers. Also, at the range more accurate than most shooters with their $600 to $800 wonder semi-autos. Too get to be a good marksman it takes practice to develop good shooting skills.
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roaddog28
Not to mention how the number of reported negligent discharges by LE have increased in direct proportion to the number of short light safe action trigger systems in police holsters. While that is really a training issue, a longer heavier trigger does bridge the gap between training and hardware.
KyWstJoe
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Yada, yada, yada. Great pistol, great price. Sear assembly needs a little polishing, big deal. Every 1911 fanatic buys their dream 1911 and customizes it. To each their own. My Sigma needed some trigger TLC, bought it about two years ago. Got one for my wife back in September and out of the box it was pretty darn good. Never will be a tack driver, never was intended to be. A solid, safe, reliable self defense weapon it is, as was intended. It's S&W best seller, does that tell y'all something?
bbaaspencer
Member
Smith & Wesson refused to touch the awful trigger when it was there for repairs. I followed the trigger job post step-by-step and it works better!
SouthpawShootr
Member
I have 2 Sigmas. I've shot my 9VE quite a bit. My friends think it's cool that I can crush walnuts between the tips of my trigger finger and thumb.
Just kidding. Sigma doesn't bother me, never has. This is largely due to my father insisting that I learn to shoot DA revolvers properly. He had many that with tuned actions. The ones I got to shoot were the ones that were factory stock. So the transition wasn't really that big of a deal. The 9VE is my nightstand gun. For finger exercises, I regularly workout with a device called an eagle catcher, though not due to the Sigma. After many years of working with this thing,you'd either have to shoot me or shock me to get loose from my grip.
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There was a story on the news in Dayton Ohio about a guy in an Applebees with his girlfriend( Ohio does not let you carry in a retaurants especially one that serves alcohol)
was putting on his coat and his cc gun fired and shot his girlfriend in the leg.She will be ok. It did not say what he was carrying but his trigger must have been too light, could have killed some child or other bystander.I like my Sigma,I am not an expert on guns but I talked to the man in Texas that does warrantees he said once you get used to the trigger you will like it.Every forum I have been in has someone putting down someone else gun.Why can't we just think of each one of us who own a S&W as part of the S&W Family,just like car clubs
they don't put people because someone has a different model
Ford or Chevy than they do.
There was a story on the news in Dayton Ohio about a guy in an Applebees with his girlfriend( Ohio does not let you carry in a retaurants especially one that serves alcohol)
was putting on his coat and his cc gun fired and shot his girlfriend in the leg.She will be ok. It did not say what he was carrying but his trigger must have been too light, could have killed some child or other bystander.I like my Sigma,I am not an expert on guns but I talked to the man in Texas that does warrantees he said once you get used to the trigger you will like it.Every forum I have been in has someone putting down someone else gun.Why can't we just think of each one of us who own a S&W as part of the S&W Family,just like car clubs
they don't put people because someone has a different model
Ford or Chevy than they do.
leejack
Member
Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for joining the club.
Don't take any garbage from the internet cowboys that try to elevate themselves by putting you down.
The sigma is a fine gun!
Lee
Thanks for joining the club.
Don't take any garbage from the internet cowboys that try to elevate themselves by putting you down.
The sigma is a fine gun!
Lee
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Peckerwood702
Member
After shooting my sigma and then switching to my friends ruger I would much rather have the sigma any day of the week, his trigger felt way to light and in a stressful situation I could easily see it going off by accident. With a sigma I can keep my finger on the trigger and know its not going to go off until I'm ready.
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