mc5aw
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Seems like sirduke has elicited numerous comments, which are evidently unsatisfactory. Exactly what type of responses are you looking for?
New scenarios for those that carry and using a weapon isn't always the answer..
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Flapjack I don't know where you received your information but it wasn't from me. I guess I can say such things if I pull a rabbit out my hat and say presto, its magic. I have to think the base of the hat is where the information came from.
So what is your intent? Are you trying to educate us? Or your self? This "what if" junk is getting old. And dangerous.
People don't need to read "what if". They need facts from those who have been there.
People don't need to read "what if". They need facts from those who have been there.
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confusing
duke - not an attack; but your 8 posts in a row, one line per post, is very confusing - impossible to tell who or what your posts are directed to or in response to what.
I know you've asked similar questions on the 1911forum, using a different screen name; please enlighten us as to your motives for asking the questions.
As has been stated there has been some very good advice given to you including avoiding certain areas; training defensive tactics with a qualified, experienced trainer - all good advice given.
duke - not an attack; but your 8 posts in a row, one line per post, is very confusing - impossible to tell who or what your posts are directed to or in response to what.
I know you've asked similar questions on the 1911forum, using a different screen name; please enlighten us as to your motives for asking the questions.
As has been stated there has been some very good advice given to you including avoiding certain areas; training defensive tactics with a qualified, experienced trainer - all good advice given.
venomballistics
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exactly ...
ya see duke, theres a thing often referred to as the KISS principal.
the more you devise answers to the proposed puzzles, the less effective you will be in the clutch.
fight
negotiate
flee
thats all the options you really need
anything grafted onto these three simple options will jam up your brain like a Chinese auto with a chamber full of gum because your option list is far too large to be effective.
choosing between A B and C is far more efficient than selecting something out of the full alphabet.
above all else ... Keep It Simple Stupid
There were also some simular ramblings over at the Sigforum, the guy was definately rambling like this guy and the administrator closed / locked the thread. We all have good and intelligent intentions, there are those however take advantage of (our) good nature and ramble and troll and spam, for whatever reason.. His join date is July 2011
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My best response sirduke to this set of situations, your past senerios, and future is; situational awareness, eyes open aware, avoid the problem all together if possible. Now here is a question for you, why do you assume that most people on this forum do not know the basics of defending themselves or family? I have only been carrying concealed for a year and a half now and I am not aLEO. I have spent twice as much money on classes than I spent to buy my revolver. I have family in law enforcement both in the USA and in Peru who have helped to train and educate me. Nobody I have talked with thinks a gun will be a magic fix.
Posting about nearly impossible imagined or theoretical or philosophical potentially fatal situations, and then asking what one should or would do, might be a good way to start a discussion, once in a while.
Posting about these imaginary theoretical fatal situations all the time in what appears to be an attempt to point out the futility of possessing a firearm in those situations, is not what this forum is about, is it?
And when some seek information as to why or where these posts come from, and perhaps try to answer the unanswerable, one replies, sometimes after several silly sequential postings, that these are not imaginary situations, but are in fact his own real experiences.
THEN he criticizes those who replied but didn't directly answer his posted imaginary, I mean, real experience question.
I believe THIS is TROLLING.
Don't go for the bait, maybe he'll find another fishing hole.
Where's that 'Ignore' button?
Posting about these imaginary theoretical fatal situations all the time in what appears to be an attempt to point out the futility of possessing a firearm in those situations, is not what this forum is about, is it?
And when some seek information as to why or where these posts come from, and perhaps try to answer the unanswerable, one replies, sometimes after several silly sequential postings, that these are not imaginary situations, but are in fact his own real experiences.
THEN he criticizes those who replied but didn't directly answer his posted imaginary, I mean, real experience question.
I believe THIS is TROLLING.
Don't go for the bait, maybe he'll find another fishing hole.
Where's that 'Ignore' button?
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when do you post the answer key?
This is great stuff!
The level of detail is terrific. In scenario one, it is a "hunting knife", and in scenario two it is a "dagger" - what about scenario 3? What kind of knife is at the woman's throat? This is probably important, but I'm not sure. What if scenario one involves a dagger? Does this change the outcome? Similarly, if a hunting knife is in scenario two, does this change?
What if the woman in scenario two is wearing level 3 body armor, with ceramic plates, and the throat guard? You didn't specify how she is equipped for combat? If the holster is a Serpa worn on front of the IBA, it could be a game changer.
How about the pregnancy? Is it exactly 8 months? Is the answer different at 8 months and 3 days? How about 7 months? 5 months? What if I'm pregnant, but don't yet know?
Please post the correct answers to your scenarios, soon.
This is great stuff!
The level of detail is terrific. In scenario one, it is a "hunting knife", and in scenario two it is a "dagger" - what about scenario 3? What kind of knife is at the woman's throat? This is probably important, but I'm not sure. What if scenario one involves a dagger? Does this change the outcome? Similarly, if a hunting knife is in scenario two, does this change?
What if the woman in scenario two is wearing level 3 body armor, with ceramic plates, and the throat guard? You didn't specify how she is equipped for combat? If the holster is a Serpa worn on front of the IBA, it could be a game changer.
How about the pregnancy? Is it exactly 8 months? Is the answer different at 8 months and 3 days? How about 7 months? 5 months? What if I'm pregnant, but don't yet know?
Please post the correct answers to your scenarios, soon.
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Wow, all I can say is Wow!
I have a tough enough time dealin with the real deals without thinkin 'bout some what ifs.
But I'll play along. I's jest really like a good puzzle...
I've had folks pull guns on me, brandish knifes of one sort or another.
Even had one cat draw a broad ax on me...I don't rightly recall my reaction to each and ever one of those real life incidents.
But, I would say that distance and cover are your friend, use it. Don't over think it.
When all else fails fall back on your trainin'...You do have training don't you?
1.Turning to the door way to my right, as I crossed the thresh-hold the subject drew back the ax over his right shoulder.
I stepped quickly back in the hallway and to my right using the door jam as cover while drawing my sidearm with my right hand
and transitioning the pistol to my left hand.
By pieing the corner I was able to come sights on to the perpetrator...
A. Did I go running from the building screaming like a lit'l girl?
B. Did open fire with my sidearm?
C. Did I order the subject in a loud command voice to drop the battle ax?
D. Shoot the ax out of his hands?
E. Lastly did I shoot out the lights and hope for the best.
A lucky Internet hand shake for the first guess.
Su Amigo,
Dave
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I have a tough enough time dealin with the real deals without thinkin 'bout some what ifs.
But I'll play along. I's jest really like a good puzzle...
I've had folks pull guns on me, brandish knifes of one sort or another.
Even had one cat draw a broad ax on me...I don't rightly recall my reaction to each and ever one of those real life incidents.
But, I would say that distance and cover are your friend, use it. Don't over think it.
When all else fails fall back on your trainin'...You do have training don't you?
1.Turning to the door way to my right, as I crossed the thresh-hold the subject drew back the ax over his right shoulder.
I stepped quickly back in the hallway and to my right using the door jam as cover while drawing my sidearm with my right hand
and transitioning the pistol to my left hand.
By pieing the corner I was able to come sights on to the perpetrator...
A. Did I go running from the building screaming like a lit'l girl?
B. Did open fire with my sidearm?
C. Did I order the subject in a loud command voice to drop the battle ax?
D. Shoot the ax out of his hands?
E. Lastly did I shoot out the lights and hope for the best.
A lucky Internet hand shake for the first guess.
Su Amigo,
Dave
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mc5aw
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Dave ... I'm going out on the proverbial limb and choosing d).
Do tell ...
Do tell ...
keith44spl
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Dave ... I'm going out on the proverbial limb and choosing d).
Do tell ...
Ya know, it has been my experance the alot of shots fired do strike the weapon.
I believe cause we sumtimes kinda tunnel focus on the threat.
Sorry, no I didn't shoot the ax outta his hands...But here's yer lucky handshake / wave
Su Amigo,
Dave
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mc5aw
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Did you axe him to drop his weapon?
OFT II
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Did he kill you?
keith44spl
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Ah, I ain't never been kilt in my whole life...That I recall anyhows
But, A Good Guess though.
Su Amigo,
Dave
amazingflapjack
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My-My My-MY MY MY My...
jlrhiner
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Did he get mad and go home?
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