Rastoff
US Veteran
Of course you can always just add a short piece of pic rail to your M-Lock or Key Mod forearms.
New to AR's I have a question
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And add yet another bolt or two to keep tight . . .
Rastoff
US Veteran
The point is, if you already have a forearm, no need to change it out. If the bolt/screw/attachment is installed properly, it won't come loose.
Personally I've never had any part on any AR (battle rifle) I've owned/used come loose. That's just me and I'm sure many others have had plenty of trouble with parts falling off.
I did own this one Harley...
Personally I've never had any part on any AR (battle rifle) I've owned/used come loose. That's just me and I'm sure many others have had plenty of trouble with parts falling off.
I did own this one Harley...
Rastoff
US Veteran
This is what I'm talking about:
This rifle has many thousands of rounds on it, been through several classes and generally been well used. It has been used, but not abused.
I like this type of forearm. Comfortable to hold on to and I can still attach a flashlight if I want to.
This rifle has many thousands of rounds on it, been through several classes and generally been well used. It has been used, but not abused.
I like this type of forearm. Comfortable to hold on to and I can still attach a flashlight if I want to.
I'd highly recommend going with something like this and not a quad-rail. You''ll likely tire of a quad and go this route later therefore save the cash and go to a nice steakhouse.
Smith357
US Veteran
But why buy a quad rail if all you are going to do is buy covers to put over it?
Because it came with a rifle attached.
Covers are cheaper than a new M-lock forend and all the little bits and piece to go with it.
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I've seen 'em. They're nice enough. A lid for every pot, like Grandma Muggins used to say . . .
cyphertext
US Veteran
Because it came with a rifle attached.
Covers are cheaper than a new M-lock forend and all the little bits and piece to go with it.
Agree! If you purchased the rifle and it came with a quadrail, and it works for you, then I don't advocate changing it.
But if you just bought a new Sport and want to make it free float, I would look at the M-LOK and Keymod setups.
Do you go to a gym regularly? Just don't see how you hump the extra weight of those additional screws.This is what I'm talking about:
This rifle has many thousands of rounds on it, been through several classes and generally been well used. It has been used, but not abused.
I like this type of forearm. Comfortable to hold on to and I can still attach a flashlight if I want to.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Gym? No, I don't know him, but I did drive past a Holiday Inn Express once.Do you go to a gym regularly? Just don't see how you hump the extra weight of those additional screws.
Actually the forearm in that pic is more narrow than a regular free float forearm. So, the weight of the screws is offset by the reduced mass in the forearm. (I also have a bridge for sale by the way...)
Big Shrek
Member
I'd supposed it comes from a Military Mindset, courtesy of the US Army
Being able to attach whatever one needs at the drop of a hat is SOP
Is Mlok that much better?
Are those attachments cheaper/easier than a quadrail's??
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Courtesy of the U.S. Army and Navy, quadrails should be incinerated.
cyphertext
US Veteran
For me it is... Makes the hand guard thinner than a quadrail with covers. Lots of folks end up mounting pieces of rail to the M-LOK though because all of their existing stuff fits on picatinny rail.
rafbentwaters
Member
Congratulations on your first AR. Mine (post-ban) was a mil-spec Bushmaster ORC, before the "improvements" commenced. Before long, my poor rifle looked like a fully loaded A-10 Warthog. However, my most recent AR is a Sig M400 Elite with Romeo red-dot as shipped from the factory.
After 40 years experience with M16s/ARs, AKs and other battle rifles, I learned it's cheaper to use each weapon "as issued" to the best of my ability. Then purchase additional weapons and sights as technology improves or needs change.
I still have the Bushmaster, but additions were pared down to a quad rail, Nikon M-223 scope (zero at 300 yards) and Sig STL-300 tactical grip/light/laser (eliminates the need for rail covers). She still sits front & center in my safe, surrounded by her younger sisters.
After 40 years experience with M16s/ARs, AKs and other battle rifles, I learned it's cheaper to use each weapon "as issued" to the best of my ability. Then purchase additional weapons and sights as technology improves or needs change.
I still have the Bushmaster, but additions were pared down to a quad rail, Nikon M-223 scope (zero at 300 yards) and Sig STL-300 tactical grip/light/laser (eliminates the need for rail covers). She still sits front & center in my safe, surrounded by her younger sisters.
Vulcan Bob
Member
Welcome to the forum! You got the answer you needed to both of your questions.
In my opinion, I would avoid the quad rail because they tend to be heavier than most other forearms and with today's offerings in the market, unnecessary. You have all the flexibility of the quad rail with out the weight and discomfort to your hand. In many cases, the mounting options are often much better with the modern offerings out there.
Shoot your rifle for a while and see what you like and don't like on it before you go crazy on upgrades. A lot of us have a box or a drawer full of parts we later thought better of or regretting buying.
Of course, the side benefit is that we now have parts for other rifles we buy in the future or have already bought...
You are so right about the box! I call mine "The box of shame".
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Smith357
US Veteran
The items for my quadrail are quick release except for the sights where you need a penny. Easy on easy off no tools required. With the new systems you typically need a hex wrench to mount and remove them. Lots of small parts to deal with, no problems at home on the bench, but loose a screw in the bush...
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cyphertext
US Veteran
The items for my quadrail are quick release except for the sights where you need a penny. Easy on easy off no tools required. With the new systems you typically need a hex wrench to mount and remove them. Lots of small parts to deal with, no problems at home on the bench, but loose a screw in the bush...
I haven't used them, but there are quick disconnect adapters that are basically a piece of rail that has spring loaded locks that attach into the MLOK slot.
Smith357
US Veteran
I did not know that, it makes sense that someone would develop a quick release system for the M-lok. If I were to go M-lok, quick release would be a must. But I don't see me spending any more money on my AR other than more ammo.
To QD (quick release) to a mlok you still need a section of mlok picatinny "rail". For example; MLOKI did not know that, it makes sense that someone would develop a quick release system for the M-lok. If I were to go M-lok, quick release would be a must. But I don't see me spending any more money on my AR other than more ammo.
To the rail you can then attach a QD device.
hdwhit
Member
I just left the stock and handguards that came on my Sport IIs just the way they were and used the money I would have spent replacing them on brass, bullets, primers and powder.
